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Benefits and problems from the EU membership.

Should the EU Bird Protection Directives be fully enforced in Cyprus (north and south)

Yes, it should be fully enforced
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78%
No, it should be observed but in a relaxed way
5
22%
 
Total votes : 23

Postby insan » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:19 am

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Get Real! wrote:Years ago in Cyprus, I remember looking up at the skies and seeing flocks of birds flying around and chirping, but these days NOTHING! :?

Not even bloody sparrows anymore!

Where the fuck have all the birds of Cyprus gone Nikitas??? :evil:

Yeah, I'd always been told there were loads of crapping birds on Cyprus' beaches, but I've never seen a single one. Or maybe I misheard. :?


Abt some 30 or 20 years ago even the ciklas(Turdus) could be seen as flocks. Also üveyiks(Streptopelia)... When I was a shepherd, I was observing 100s of üveyik in 1-2 donums of area.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:33 am

Paphitis wrote:
Pax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I voted no, because I absolutely love the Cypriot delicacy of Ampelopoullia...Yum! :D


What happens to ampelopoullia when the birds no longer return because of ecological collapse resulting from excessive/improper hunting ?


As long as we have an abundant supply of Ampellopoullia, then all is fine....

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Do they have landing rights in Cyprus? :twisted:

Landing Permits should be withdrawn. :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:45 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I voted no, because I absolutely love the Cypriot delicacy of Ampelopoullia...Yum! :D


What happens to ampelopoullia when the birds no longer return because of ecological collapse resulting from excessive/improper hunting ?


As long as we have an abundant supply of Ampellopoullia, then all is fine....

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Do they have landing rights in Cyprus? :twisted:

Landing Permits should be withdrawn. :lol:


Of course they have landing rights....

We would even welcome them with pieces of bread to feast on before we pull out the shotgun! :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:14 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pax wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I voted no, because I absolutely love the Cypriot delicacy of Ampelopoullia...Yum! :D


What happens to ampelopoullia when the birds no longer return because of ecological collapse resulting from excessive/improper hunting ?


As long as we have an abundant supply of Ampellopoullia, then all is fine....

Image



Do they have landing rights in Cyprus? :twisted:

Landing Permits should be withdrawn. :lol:


Of course they have landing rights....

We would even welcome them with pieces of bread to feast on before we pull out the shotgun! :lol:



They are only caught because they will alight where there is water. How cruel can one be.....................and how soft have I become................since drinking the horrible London water. :lol:
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Postby JimB » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:The UK is also paying heaps of fines every year, including for their notorious fox and badger hunting/killing, so don’t assume that they’re the “civilized” ones! :lol:


Can you quote a source for the above?

I was under the impression that the Hunting Act 2004 was a UK specific piece of legislation and is not within the remit of the EU to impose fines.

The UK actually receives billions of pounds each year from the EU as part of the CAP allowance rebate that was negotiated by Thatchers government all those years ago (you may recall that the French tried to get this abolished a few years ago - they did not succeed.)

Did I make any reference to civility? I think not.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:26 pm

JimB wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The UK is also paying heaps of fines every year, including for their notorious fox and badger hunting/killing, so don’t assume that they’re the “civilized” ones! :lol:


Can you quote a source for the above?

I was under the impression that the Hunting Act 2004 was a UK specific piece of legislation and is not within the remit of the EU to impose fines.

The UK actually receives billions of pounds each year from the EU as part of the CAP allowance rebate that was negotiated by Thatchers government all those years ago (you may recall that the French tried to get this abolished a few years ago - they did not succeed.)

Did I make any reference to civility? I think not.


Look mate...If I invite you over to my place for an Ampellopoullia feast...then you too will be shooting them.... :D

Trust me...They are delicious!
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Postby Sotos » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:17 pm

Be a man and use a gun


What is so manly with killing a bird with a gun? :? People kill millions of animals every year and from what I know most people in all countries eat meat! The laws are there just to protect endangered species and they are not saying that killing animals in one way or another is unethical because then all countries would be unethical.
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Postby Pax » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:29 pm

Nikitas wrote:"What happens to ampelopoullia when the birds no longer return because of ecological collapse resulting from excessive/improper hunting ?"

Your question shows that you haven't a clue about ecology or biology or wildlfie management. With ambelopoulia trapping gone there is no motive to keep their habitat in Cyprus intact. That is why buildings are mushrooming around Paralimini, Protaras, and surrouounding villages.

So Pax, do you think that with concrete instead of acacia plantations there is now more or less ambelopoulia? What does the annual bird count in Bird Life say?

And what is wrong with Cyprus hunting seasons? They are the shortest in Europe and well within the ambit of the 409/79 Birds Directive. So why do you get a bug up your ass over this?

But guys like you do not really care about wildllife. You are just a moral high grounder who wants to feel good inside by fooling himself that he has done something good. It is a kind of masturbation that justifies the term malakas.

Aiissihtir pia, arketa sas anektikame!


You're response Nikitas is that of an offensive little schmuck.

The fact is I read an article about Malta and bird hunting and EU directives which I wondered whether it was relevant to Cyprus, especially because both Cyprus and Malta joined the EU at the same time and bird hunting has been an important tradition for both.

For some unknown reason you get up on your high horse and let both barrels go at me. What's wrong with Cyprus hunting seasons ? I didn't say anything was wrong with them. Ecology - I asked a question, no more than that. Moral high-grounder - I asked a poll question whether EU directives should be complied with. The least you can do is apologise, or if not - which I don't expect, then fuck you. If you've already crawled into the moral gutter then everyone else, Nikitas, will indeed seem to be occupying the moral high ground.
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Postby Milo » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:52 pm

Traditions not always right or appropriate anymore, and ILLEGAL trapping in Cyprus is just that illegal. Its nothing at all to do with tradition its a lucrative business on the island and pays well THAT is the ony reason it is still being carried out. Take the money out of it i.e The Restaurants paying the trappers it would melt away.

Other Europeans seem to be interested enough in Cyprus,s birds even if a few locals are not and even though threats are made and some hunters are threatening residents as a newspaper article revealed on Saturday. The majority find it sick....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_zdDBAp6cI
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Postby JimB » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:58 pm

Milo wrote:Traditions not always right or appropriate anymore, and ILLEGAL trapping in Cyprus is just that illegal. Its nothing at all to do with tradition its a lucrative business on the island and pays well THAT is the ony reason it is still being carried out. Take the money out of it i.e The Restaurants paying the trappers it would melt away.

Other Europeans seem to be interested enough in Cyprus,s birds even if a few locals are not and even though threats are made and some hunters are threatening residents as a newspaper article revealed on Saturday. The majority find it sick....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_zdDBAp6cI


Great post and a good (though disturbing link).
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