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The British animal cruelty shame file!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:10 pm

The British animal cruelty shame file!


Badgers - Welsh badger cull
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satelli ... 6788540533


Racing greyhounds!
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satelli ... greyhounds


Is fox hunting cruel?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/418681.stm


Animal Cruelty In The UK

“Cruelty to animals has reached worryingly high levels in the UK and the credit crunch has given half hearted pet owners an excuse and a reason to part with their animal. If you are genuinely struggling then please accept Ethel's apologies, however she knows that all too many fickle owners use anything and everything as an excuse to shirk the responsibility that they owe their pet. “

http://www.helium.com/zone/2289-animal- ... in-the-uk-


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Postby purdey » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:58 pm

And Purdeys going Goose shooting this evening ! straight barrels guys and tally ho !
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:31 pm

purdey wrote:And Purdeys going Goose shooting this evening ! straight barrels guys and tally ho !

The last time you sought adventure half your teeth fell out so let’s hope this time round you won’t end up with pellets up your bum… :?
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Re: The British animal cruelty shame file!

Postby JimB » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:The British animal cruelty shame file!


Badgers - Welsh badger cull
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satelli ... 6788540533


Racing greyhounds!
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satelli ... greyhounds


Is fox hunting cruel?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/418681.stm


Animal Cruelty In The UK

“Cruelty to animals has reached worryingly high levels in the UK and the credit crunch has given half hearted pet owners an excuse and a reason to part with their animal. If you are genuinely struggling then please accept Ethel's apologies, however she knows that all too many fickle owners use anything and everything as an excuse to shirk the responsibility that they owe their pet. “

http://www.helium.com/zone/2289-animal- ... in-the-uk-


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Oh dear indeed Unkie GR. I hope you don't drive the same as you create internet chat topics - your all over the bloody place.

Remind yourself of what I said would happen on the Britain is Guilty of War Crimes fiasco you created.

OK here goes .....

You've posted two links to the RSPCA website, a redundant article from 1999 on fox hunting that has been superseded by legislation, and a link to some pay for content blog website ....

Your first link refers to a potential cull of badgers in response to a threat of Bovine TB within Wales. Bovine TB kills cattle and an outbreak would have a significant economic impact on the area. The badger is a known carrier of the disease. The RSPCA is arguing for the use of a potential vaccine developed in New Zealand as opposed to a cull.

As far as I can see it the debate goes on.

Irrespective of the current status of the proposed cull I'm struggling to see how you can justify this as an item of cruelty? It would be reasonable to expect that if the cull takes place this will be overseen by Defra and members of the RSPCA and the veterinary profession. I think you have some idea that this would be carried out by some guy's with sticks ....

Your second link is a plea to the government to examine the plight of greyhounds post working life. Having been to the occasional greyhound meet (work events) I can certainly say that they are seriously looked after during their working life - most are worth more than the average house.

The RSPCA wants an investigation into what happens when they've come to the end of their useful life as they DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION OR EVIDENCE ON THIS YET. Good that they ask though hey?

Link to 1999 article on fox hunting. No longer legal in the UK. World didn't end. Not sure why you think this is relevant - it doesn't help your case (and in fact goes against it .... still).

Your last link is without a doubt the best and my personal favourite.

It's a web blog by some woman called Ethel Smith that is hosted on a pay for content blog site called Helium (still in Beta apparently). Take a look at the tagline for the site http://www.helium.com/content/whatishelium where it proudly proclaims 'Write. Get Published. Get Paid' in large typeface.

Kudos to Ethel for trying to drum up support for a charity (UK based) but let's face it I'm not sure she's an authoritative source, especially as most of her links are grabbed from the RSPCA website and refer to cruelty cases around the world. Still, girls gotta earn a living right!

You want to compare prosecutions?

Discuss the Cypriot authorities attitude to law enforcement on animal welfare issues?

Have a chat about the Cypriot social attitude to indiscriminate use of poison and illegal trapping methods?

Jeez fella would you take a shower - your covered in it.

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Postby RichardB » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:26 pm

Never mind GRs post ... This is the real crime

Upward jump in lab animal tests
By Victoria Gill
Science reporter, BBC News



Rodents were used in 77% of animal experiments
The number of animals used in UK laboratories for scientific experiments has risen again.

Home Office figures show that in 2008, 3.7 million procedures using animals were carried out in England, Wales and Scotland - an increase of 14% on 2007.

This represents a spike in the year-on-year trend, although numbers have been increasing for several years.

More than three-quarters of procedures were carried out on rodents. Most of the remainder involved birds and fish.

Dogs, cats, horses and non-human primates receive special protection under the Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986. These were used in less than 1% of all procedures.

Most experiments were for research and drug development; safety testing accounted for much of the rest.

Animal welfare groups have strongly criticised the increase, with the RSPCA calling the figures "disappointing".

But Lord Drayson, science and innovation minister, said the research was "critical to the development of new medicines and increasing the level of understanding of diseases".


The rise represents 454,000 more procedures undertaken in 2008, compared with 2007. An increase in the use of fish - used in 278,000 more procedures, or 85% more than 2007 - was a major contributor.

Zebrafish are particularly valuable in research because they can be genetically manipulated to mimic or "model" many diseases, and to have transparent bodies.

The number of procedures involving mice increased by 197,000 - an increase of 9% on the previous year. At the same time, the number of procedures involving rats decreased by 30,000.

Professor Paul Bolam, a neuroscientist from the University of Oxford, explained that researchers were increasingly moving from using rats to mice, because mice were relatively easier to modify.

"When we find out a particular disease is genetically driven, and when we identify the gene in humans (that is associated with the disease), we can find out what protein the gene codes for," he explained.

"So you can genetically modify (a mouse) to introduce this protein, and look at how that can lead to the pathology of the disease.

"I think that's leading to a big increase in the use of genetically modified mice."

'The three Rs'

In 2004, the government established a national centre called NC3Rs, which is dedicated to replacing, refining and reducing (the "three Rs") the use of animals in tests that are licensed under the Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act.

Using more animals does not mean more suffering

Simon Festing,
Understanding Animal Research
This latest increase in the statistics has caused critics to question whether policy-makers are failing to uphold this three Rs strategy.

But Dr Judy MacArthur Clark, chief inspector of the Home Office Animals (Scientific Procedures) Inspectorate, said the strategy was working, and that the numbers were more of a reflection of "an increase in fully ethically justified, high quality research taking place in the UK".

And according to the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, the amount of publicly funded scientific research in the UK is increasing.

"Government investment through the UK science budget has more than doubled in real terms" from £1.3 billion in 1997/8, to £3.6 billion in 2008/9," the department said in a statement.

Simon Festing, executive director of Understanding Animal Research, said the three Rs were not just about reducing numbers.

"Improving animal welfare by refining procedures and replacing 'higher' animals with 'lower' animals are also important," he said.
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Postby Raymanoff » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:28 pm

I just had Rabbit Stew... my kumparos father slaughtered the poor thing with an army knife in front of us... is this considered Animal Cruelty? :D :D :D
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:00 pm

Raymanoff wrote:I just had Rabbit Stew... my kumparos father slaughtered the poor thing with an army knife in front of us... is this considered Animal Cruelty? :D :D :D


No, animal cruelty is for idiots. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:44 pm

Turtle group blast SBA authorities for netting deaths

"BRITISH BASE authorities have come under fire after the deaths of 25 turtles caught in fishing nets over the past year.

Outraged workers at Episkopi Turtle Watch have launched an online petition in an attempt to better protect turtles. The group said the situation could have been avoided with a small change to netting regulations"


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 8&cat_id=1
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Postby Oracle » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:Turtle group blast SBA authorities for netting deaths

"BRITISH BASE authorities have come under fire after the deaths of 25 turtles caught in fishing nets over the past year.

Outraged workers at Episkopi Turtle Watch have launched an online petition in an attempt to better protect turtles. The group said the situation could have been avoided with a small change to netting regulations"


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 8&cat_id=1


Why do the British Bases have fishing rights in our waters? :evil:
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Postby JimB » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:44 pm

The way I read the article is that this is local fishermen (Cypriot's?) killing the turtles (accidentally or on purpose) not the SBA.

Read it again.
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