Cyprus and EU co-ordination on terrorism
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| erolz |
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| magikthrill wrote: |
yes erol. the EU will boot the RoC and instead recognize and bring in the TRNC. |
Is that what I said ?
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and i wasnt talking about weed. i was talking about intenrational law which supposedly the UK adheres to. if they choose to turn their back on it thus far thats fine but if they wish to have court cooperations then why should they be able to conitnue to do this/ |
Can you show me the international law that says it is illegal to buy property in northern cyprus? The fact is there is no such law. What there is is a national law in the RoC that states such acts are illegal. There is no such law in any other country. That might be distateful and disgracful from where you are sitting but it is the reality. So there according to the RoC these acts are illegal. According to other countries laws they are not (just like the pot smoking example but there are others as well). What you are saying is that unless other EU countries agree to pass similar laws to the RoC concerning property sales in the north, the RoC should refuse to cooperate in helping such countries combat the kind of terrosim seen in London and Madrid. This is exactly the kind of 'blackmail' that will make the RoC pariahs in the EU if they follow this course. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:39 pm |
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| magikthrill |
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correct me if im wrong but according to interntaional law the title deeds belgoning to pre 74 owners are still valid non?
if this is the case then people who do not legally own the proprety are selling it which makes it illegal. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:39 pm |
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Last edited by turkcyp on Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:36 am; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:32 pm |
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| erolz |
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| magikthrill wrote: |
| correct me if im wrong but according to interntaional law the title deeds belgoning to pre 74 owners are still valid non? |
No according to the RoC's law (not international law) they are still valid. Title deeds are issued by national governments not some international body. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:43 pm |
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| Piratis |
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| No according to the RoC's law (not international law) they are still valid. Title deeds are issued by national governments not some international body. |
And RoC is the only recognized state in Cyprus from all countries except Turkey.
The only one that can decide what is valid and what is invalid in Cyprus is RoC and nobody else, especially an illegal regime. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:58 pm |
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| demetriou_74 |
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| pre 1974 all deeds were legal owned by gc's or tc's. however many people do not have the deeds becasue they were too busy escaping from the invasion. all the town halls had deeds but these have probably been changed or lost |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:20 am |
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| Agios Amvrosios |
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The Title of Greek Cypriot refugees has been affirmed in the ECHR. It is crystal clear that the legal rights of refugees in respect of property are held to be valid.
But in any case to limit the Ethnic cleansing of all non Turks from the Occupied areas to merely a legal dispute about property is a simplistic evaluation since. The ECHR does not do this in Loizidou and other cases. The Court also awarded moral damges on the basis that Turkey has and had no right to prevent nonTurks from living in Kyrenia. This is why there are embargoes over the occupied areas. The Embargoes will only be lifted if the rights of the refugees are restored. |
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