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The ONLY way to solve the problem

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Re: The ONLY way to solve the problem

Postby kurupetos » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:03 pm

t_henrymb wrote:First of all Cypriots (all communities with a Republic of Cyprus passport) should be seen as an individual on it's own.

All these individuals should claim their own property and private goods before pre-1974. This will help because it will stop arguments and problems to arise between communities. For example, a Turkish-speaking Cypriot should go and claim his property in Limassol even though Talat wants to solve the problem in communities. President Talat has no right to make a decision on an individuals private property in, For example Limassol. Him being a negotiator does not mean he can make decisions on private property.

The property issue should be solved under three main issues; Compensation, Trading the property with another and the the right to return.

A lasting solution should be made and not going to fantasies. The Cyprus problem should be solved according to the UN resolutions wich also suggests a United Federal Cyprus. The Peace-Plan should be based on this.

Cyprus should free from any foreign guarantor and should keep to itself. No foreign country should have the right to take part in the Cypriot politics. Also, Cyprus should purely be independent.

If you add to my proposals or want to make any different suggestions please write.

The Cyprus Problem is a problem that Cypriots have to solve.


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Postby B25 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:34 pm

t_henrymb wrote:Yeah, i live in Cyprus. In Kyrenia. I can tell you that, believe me i am a pro-peace guy. My aim is to inform people in not a fanatical way so I thought that this is the right place because it is open to everyone. I believe that every thought and ideas have got a place in this forum under certain rules and regulations. So I can say that I am also pleased to be part of this forum and help as much as I can.

To answer to ''kafenes'' question, the land sold to foreigners is a complicated issue. The land is Greek Cypriot land. So this means the real owner of the land has the legal right to own and hold the land under International Rights. However we can see that, Turkey is currently violating the Human Rights protocol which they have already signed and also violating the Geneva protocol which they have also signed. The thing in the land issue would be that everysingle person involved in the transaction of the property owned by another owner would be in fault. So the builder, the seller and the buyer would be in fault. And one day these people will pay the price for this. The original title deeds of the land even in the north is under the control of the Republic of Cyprus. So, so called 'TRNC' has no right to allow people to sell these lands. But we can see that the so called 'TRNC' government is making a form of income by taxes. So this is another issue to consider. But 'kafenes', i believe that all this dirty business will one day come out and the faulty will be punished. Just let the law and the human rights play its role...


t_henrymb, welcome to the forum. You are a breath of fresh air compared to the poison we get from many of your fellow TCs.

I must warn you however, do not reveal yourself to some here, Yfred, Insan, VP, Zan, Pauuul. these are totally anti your way of thinking and you have to protect yourself. You will feel the wrath of these people especially here and if they have the chance outside as well. Take care.

I take some confort that there may be more logical thinking TCs in the north as here, the TCs that write are totally anti solution.

My postings maybe seem like I am like them but GC, but the truth of the matter is, most of it is just reactionary to their onesided biased postings that they demand Cyprus for themselves.

Anyway, I agree with your proposal above, good luck and lets hear some more rational talk, all this other talk makes me want to puke!
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:17 pm

Get rid of the Turks.
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Postby insan » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:30 am

B25 wrote:
t_henrymb wrote:Yeah, i live in Cyprus. In Kyrenia. I can tell you that, believe me i am a pro-peace guy. My aim is to inform people in not a fanatical way so I thought that this is the right place because it is open to everyone. I believe that every thought and ideas have got a place in this forum under certain rules and regulations. So I can say that I am also pleased to be part of this forum and help as much as I can.

To answer to ''kafenes'' question, the land sold to foreigners is a complicated issue. The land is Greek Cypriot land. So this means the real owner of the land has the legal right to own and hold the land under International Rights. However we can see that, Turkey is currently violating the Human Rights protocol which they have already signed and also violating the Geneva protocol which they have also signed. The thing in the land issue would be that everysingle person involved in the transaction of the property owned by another owner would be in fault. So the builder, the seller and the buyer would be in fault. And one day these people will pay the price for this. The original title deeds of the land even in the north is under the control of the Republic of Cyprus. So, so called 'TRNC' has no right to allow people to sell these lands. But we can see that the so called 'TRNC' government is making a form of income by taxes. So this is another issue to consider. But 'kafenes', i believe that all this dirty business will one day come out and the faulty will be punished. Just let the law and the human rights play its role...


t_henrymb, welcome to the forum. You are a breath of fresh air compared to the poison we get from many of your fellow TCs.

I must warn you however, do not reveal yourself to some here, Yfred, Insan, VP, Zan, Pauuul. these are totally anti your way of thinking and you have to protect yourself. You will feel the wrath of these people especially here and if they have the chance outside as well. Take care.

I take some confort that there may be more logical thinking TCs in the north as here, the TCs that write are totally anti solution.

My postings maybe seem like I am like them but GC, but the truth of the matter is, most of it is just reactionary to their onesided biased postings that they demand Cyprus for themselves.

Anyway, I agree with your proposal above, good luck and lets hear some more rational talk, all this other talk makes me want to puke!


First, u need to examine ur anti-democratic, humiliating attitudes against dear Bananiot then u might have a right to talk abt us. :lol:
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Re: The ONLY way to solve the problem

Postby insan » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:42 am

bill cobbett wrote:
insan wrote:
t_henrymb wrote:First of all Cypriots (all communities with a Republic of Cyprus passport) should be seen as an individual on it's own.

All these individuals should claim their own property and private goods before pre-1974. This will help because it will stop arguments and problems to arise between communities. For example, a Turkish-speaking Cypriot should go and claim his property in Limassol even though Talat wants to solve the problem in communities. President Talat has no right to make a decision on an individuals private property in, For example Limassol. Him being a negotiator does not mean he can make decisions on private property.

The property issue should be solved under three main issues; Compensation, Trading the property with another and the the right to return.

A lasting solution should be made and not going to fantasies. The Cyprus problem should be solved according to the UN resolutions wich also suggests a United Federal Cyprus. The Peace-Plan should be based on this.

Cyprus should free from any foreign guarantor and should keep to itself. No foreign country should have the right to take part in the Cypriot politics. Also, Cyprus should purely be independent.

If you add to my proposals or want to make any different suggestions please write.

The Cyprus Problem is a problem that Cypriots have to solve.


If u r a descendant of an Ottoman settler who settled down in Cyprus between the years 1571 to 1878; u r a Turkish settler not a Cypriot. :wink:


Hadeh reh Insan,

Leaving aside the humour, what have you to say about the proposals? :roll:


I agrere with his proposal regarding the properties issue and since 2006, there has been a properties board working on basis of exchange and or compensation and or restitution. I assume henry does not know abt it.

On the other hand, all TCs r free to go South and claim their properties... besides, those who wish their relevant officials to solve the property claims on behalf of themselves r also free to give the procuration to their relevant government officials in order to have their property claims solved.

If a bi-communal properties board was established in 1975; there would have been no properties problem today.

The only issue related with properties problem would have been when the restituted Cypriots would return/use their homes...

However, incompetent self-seeker politicians of Cyprus r not able and capable to solve any problem.
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Postby B25 » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:49 am

insan wrote:
B25 wrote:
t_henrymb wrote:Yeah, i live in Cyprus. In Kyrenia. I can tell you that, believe me i am a pro-peace guy. My aim is to inform people in not a fanatical way so I thought that this is the right place because it is open to everyone. I believe that every thought and ideas have got a place in this forum under certain rules and regulations. So I can say that I am also pleased to be part of this forum and help as much as I can.

To answer to ''kafenes'' question, the land sold to foreigners is a complicated issue. The land is Greek Cypriot land. So this means the real owner of the land has the legal right to own and hold the land under International Rights. However we can see that, Turkey is currently violating the Human Rights protocol which they have already signed and also violating the Geneva protocol which they have also signed. The thing in the land issue would be that everysingle person involved in the transaction of the property owned by another owner would be in fault. So the builder, the seller and the buyer would be in fault. And one day these people will pay the price for this. The original title deeds of the land even in the north is under the control of the Republic of Cyprus. So, so called 'TRNC' has no right to allow people to sell these lands. But we can see that the so called 'TRNC' government is making a form of income by taxes. So this is another issue to consider. But 'kafenes', i believe that all this dirty business will one day come out and the faulty will be punished. Just let the law and the human rights play its role...


t_henrymb, welcome to the forum. You are a breath of fresh air compared to the poison we get from many of your fellow TCs.

I must warn you however, do not reveal yourself to some here, Yfred, Insan, VP, Zan, Pauuul. these are totally anti your way of thinking and you have to protect yourself. You will feel the wrath of these people especially here and if they have the chance outside as well. Take care.

I take some confort that there may be more logical thinking TCs in the north as here, the TCs that write are totally anti solution.

My postings maybe seem like I am like them but GC, but the truth of the matter is, most of it is just reactionary to their onesided biased postings that they demand Cyprus for themselves.

Anyway, I agree with your proposal above, good luck and lets hear some more rational talk, all this other talk makes me want to puke!


First, u need to examine ur anti-democratic, humiliating attitudes against dear Bananiot then u might have a right to talk abt us. :lol:


Bananiot can go fuck himself, I prefer TCs to him at least I know where I am with them.

I see Bananiot as a danger to us, he mingles with us yet wants our destruction. No Insan I won't, I'd rather be nice to you and Yfred, hell, even runway and gabira before I am nice to that git.

Have a nice evening.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:51 pm

B25 wrote:Bananiot can go fuck himself, I prefer TCs to him at least I know where I am with them.

I see Bananiot as a danger to us, he mingles with us yet wants our destruction. No Insan I won't, I'd rather be nice to you and Yfred, hell, even runway and gabira before I am nice to that git.

Have a nice evening.



He's probably saying that the feeling is mutual.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:37 pm

just like the americans to poke their nose in other countries business..

why dont you worry about america instead of coming here and telling us what to do with our country and how to solve our problems.. unless ur really a turk of cyprus.

u speak like a turk even ur signature is like a turk.. any american i speak to about cy they either dont know where cyprus is or dont care.. i wonder why u care so much and try tell us how to live and what to do with our island..

why doesent turkey give half their country to the tcs since they care so much.
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Postby B25 » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:13 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
B25 wrote:Bananiot can go fuck himself, I prefer TCs to him at least I know where I am with them.

I see Bananiot as a danger to us, he mingles with us yet wants our destruction. No Insan I won't, I'd rather be nice to you and Yfred, hell, even runway and gabira before I am nice to that git.

Have a nice evening.



He's probably saying that the feeling is mutual.


Dean, don't you have some cartoons to draw??? Go on piss off and stop interefering.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:52 pm

B25 wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
B25 wrote:Bananiot can go fuck himself, I prefer TCs to him at least I know where I am with them.

I see Bananiot as a danger to us, he mingles with us yet wants our destruction. No Insan I won't, I'd rather be nice to you and Yfred, hell, even runway and gabira before I am nice to that git.

Have a nice evening.



He's probably saying that the feeling is mutual.


Dean, don't you have some cartoons to draw??? Go on piss off and stop interefering.


Give me a good reason to do so, and I'll consider it.
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