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Postby SKI-preo » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:45 am

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Re: EU looks at impact of the giant "TRNC"flag

Postby B25 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:44 am

SKI-preo wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-200432-102-eu-to-investigate-whether-kktc-flag-is-environmental-hazard.html


http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/96954 ... ioner.html


Olli Rehn calls for investigation of the gigantic turkish flags.


This in itself should have been our first demand. We should have damanded its removal BEFORE ANY talks took place. It is discraceful that we are negotiating under these dictorial conditions and the TCs still insist we are the bad guys , Fuck hell!
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Postby thegame24 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:37 am

so true. Totally forgot about them, always makes my blood boil seeing them when I go to cyprus.
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Re: EU looks at impact of the giant "TRNC"flag

Postby insan » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:45 pm

B25 wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-200432-102-eu-to-investigate-whether-kktc-flag-is-environmental-hazard.html


http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/96954 ... ioner.html


Olli Rehn calls for investigation of the gigantic turkish flags.


This in itself should have been our first demand. We should have damanded its removal BEFORE ANY talks took place. It is discraceful that we are negotiating under these dictorial conditions and the TCs still insist we are the bad guys , Fuck hell!


"We" too feel the same seeing "you" as the only legitimate representative of Cyprus though supposedly we share the guilt of collapsed RoC on 50/50 basis...

If there's anything to be investigated, it's the legitimacy of the so-called RoC not the symbolic flags of any size seen anywhere...
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Re: EU looks at impact of the giant "TRNC"flag

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:22 pm

insan wrote:"We" too feel the same seeing "you" as the only legitimate representative of Cyprus though supposedly we share the guilt of collapsed RoC on 50/50 basis...

If there's anything to be investigated, it's the legitimacy of the so-called RoC not the symbolic flags of any size seen anywhere...

Instead of fantasizing ridiculous scenarios, why don’t you be a good boy and point to where in the RoC constitution it says that if the “Turkish Cypriots” spit the dummy and start running around like a headless chicken, the constitution is dissolved!

Now get to work sailor...

http://www.kypros.org/Constitution/English/
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Re: EU looks at impact of the giant "TRNC"flag

Postby B25 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:35 am

insan wrote:
B25 wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-200432-102-eu-to-investigate-whether-kktc-flag-is-environmental-hazard.html


http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/96954 ... ioner.html


Olli Rehn calls for investigation of the gigantic turkish flags.


This in itself should have been our first demand. We should have damanded its removal BEFORE ANY talks took place. It is discraceful that we are negotiating under these dictorial conditions and the TCs still insist we are the bad guys , Fuck hell!


"We" too feel the same seeing "you" as the only legitimate representative of Cyprus though supposedly we share the guilt of collapsed RoC on 50/50 basis...

If there's anything to be investigated, it's the legitimacy of the so-called RoC not the symbolic flags of any size seen anywhere...


Utter crap, we are the only legitimate RoC, you get your pensions from us, your passports and IDs your free medical what the hell more do you want?? :twisted:

You are totally the cause of the collapse, you still get your free benefits and you still have the nerve to complain FFS.

On your bike sunshine.
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Re: EU looks at impact of the giant "TRNC"flag

Postby insan » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:"We" too feel the same seeing "you" as the only legitimate representative of Cyprus though supposedly we share the guilt of collapsed RoC on 50/50 basis...

If there's anything to be investigated, it's the legitimacy of the so-called RoC not the symbolic flags of any size seen anywhere...

Instead of fantasizing ridiculous scenarios, why don’t you be a good boy and point to where in the RoC constitution it says that if the “Turkish Cypriots” spit the dummy and start running around like a headless chicken, the constitution is dissolved!

Now get to work sailor...

http://www.kypros.org/Constitution/English/


GR, 60's and 70's global political circumstances were supporting your situation but it it does not anymore...

Your "masters of the politics", aka team AKRITAS was in an adventegous position throughout that era...

There are many evidences that prove me right... especially the official telegrams and recorded dialogues between the officials of US, Turkey, Greece and Cyprus.

Everything clearly reveals that you gained the legitimacy for the so-called RoC in 1964 because "they" let you under then the circumstances because of various regional and global political reasons...

The most important was opening the way to deployment of the huge American fascilities in Greece...

THE FIRST 10 YEARS

IN 1964, however, the Security Council was so-confident of the success of the UN Force, its mandate was for six months only. Of all the options which Makarios had reviewed in 1964, UNFICYP was the most acceptable, for it recognised him alone as the President, his authority as legal, Cyprus as independent and therefore, by implication, his right to change the Constitution and other laws as the Greek Cypriots saw fit. Makarios and his supporters also believed Turkey would never dare attack and that the Cypriot Turks could now be controlled by an exclusively Greek Cypriot-managed government.

According to the UN: "Throughout 1964 and later Makarios and the Greek Cypriot leadership adopted the view that the establishment of UNFICYP had set aside the rights of intervention granted to the Guarantor Powers - Britain, Greece and Turkey - by the Treaty of Guarantee." The Greek Cypriots considered the constitution and treaty provisions were "flexible" and "subject to change". Turkish Cypriots took a diametrically opposed position. They are fixed agreements and not subject to change, they insisted. The Archbishop's assumptions proved very wrong during the next decade. For the time being, however, it was up to UNFICYP to deploy its 7,000 troops, who were volunteers from Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Ireland and the UK. They were commanded by Lt General Gyani from India. He reported directly to the UN Secretary-General. Britain found itself making the largest contribution to the Force, both with personnel and logistical support. The UN maintains this Force is the most cost-effective operation run from New York. From that moment two classes of British soldier were created in Cyprus: those who were retained at the Sovereign Bases of Episkopi in the West and Dhekelia in the East, directly under British command, and those who wore the Blue Beret and whose orders came from the Secretary General of the UN.

IN 1964 - and for the next 10 years - UNFICYP soldiers were deployed island-wide. They took up positions wherever there was "a threatened minority", which meant the Cypriot Turks. There were other difficulties as well for the UN troops. Whose "law and order" were they to "maintain and restore"? Cypriot Turks, thrown out from the official Government, were managing their own affairs in their enclaves. What could UNFICYP do if the Greek Cypriot administration passed laws which Cypriot Turks deemed unconstitutional and refused to obey? After all, Cypriot Turks were never going to "request' or "agree" anything of which they disapproved. As far as they were concerned the original 1960 Republic ceased to exist the moment they were thrown out by Makarios from the state they had co-founded by international agreement. Equally difficult, therefore, for UNFICYP was how to implement the Security Council mandate which insisted the Force promote a return to "normal conditions" and "contribute to the security" of the communities in conflict.

ALMOST by definition, UNFICYP had its hands tied from the outset and could do little more than maintain the status quo. But as the Force could not act unilaterally, nor allowed to take preventive military action, it was unable to stop the Greek Cypriots from continuing their attacks or blockading the Cypriot Turks. Time and time again, UN soldiers who tried to prevent massacres by the Greeks were disarmed and marched away or left to watch and then to report the details of the incident. It is a fact, however, that where there were British troops, there were few hostile incidents or if there were, the attackers were given short shrift by the "squaddies" and their officers.


http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cypru ... FICYP.html

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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:02 pm

whos going to make them take it down? no one
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Postby Me Ed » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:27 pm

Im sure when the Turks put it up they thought it was a great idea at the time, so much so they decided to illuminate it at night.

It would be interesting to see what perception our fellow Europeans will have of this; it will most certainly remind many of them of all the swastikas strewn all over occupied Europe.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:10 pm

Insan, who cares what telegrams were being exchanged! :roll:

A piss pot minority of uninvited Ottoman remnants should’ve NEVER been granted anything in the government of the RoC. After all, it’s not your useless community that managed to win independence from Britain but the overwhelming majority of Greek Cypriots who fought them!

Insan, you just don’t seem to realize how insignificant a community you are and that if left to your own devices you’ll be gobbled up by the prosperous majority within a few months! As such you don’t deserve anything except for a simple humanitarian choice…

1. Repatriation to Turkey.
2. Swim with the flow and shut up!

As a community you will never be able to overcome the natural selection process of this island so give it up and quit dodging the inevitable.
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