Orams and the Kangaroo Court on the Dark Side
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| bill cobbett wrote: |
| Get Real! wrote: |
Tough titties… now shut up and take it like a man! 
As far as Cyprus and the Cypriots are concerned, it is MISSION ACCOMPLISHED because:
1. The piglets have been financially ruined beyond recognition, and if their assets aren’t enough to cover their debts their pensions will do just fine!
2. The illegal GC property industry that had flourished in the illegal “TRNC” under the guise of “exchange” has been decimated!
You should be ashamed of yourselves! The bottom line is that most of the Ottoman remnants like yourself, are a disgusting criminal lot who have no place in the EU or Cyprus!
Btw, there are MORE cases coming so fasten your seatbelts… |
... and can't wait....later this year....
Coming to A GB High Court near me...The little matter of a case of alleged TRESSPASS in Occupied Karmi by the Weedons of Canterbury.
Pappou Milti, Jerry et al, have we got a date? Shall we meet up with some more of the Alleged Tresspassers? Have some new and exciting ideas for another world-wide broadcast of what lies in wait for BargainHunting Cheapskates.
(Gosh, do so like meeting CarpetBaggers at our GB Courts, hope the feeling's mutual.) |
Ready and waiting Bill !! Just name the date ! |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:08 pm |
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| Thunderbox wrote: |
| Get Real puts me in mind of a frightened youth hiding in a dark corner with a knife pretending that the whole world is afraid of him, they are not and you need help.His remarks regarding the plight of the Orams demonstrate that he is mean spirited and deviod of human feeling, or the milk of human kindness. Court rulings won't get you any land but I know a number of TCs who would be more than happy to give up the former GC houses they live in. All they want is their own homes in Paphos back. Who about it? Do you want to achieve something or just stay in your dark corner forever? You are sleepwalking into a Turkish state.Try to anwser without abuse if you are capable, but I doubt it. |
The T/Cs with legally held deeds of properties anywhere in Cyprus remain the legal owners .Their properties have not been sold to foreigners by unscrupulous developers , the RoC holds their properties in trust , theirs to claim by meeting a very simple criteria . Residence in the RoC for six months.
Personally I do not entirely agree with the length of time required but while Turkey occupies the northern parts of Cyprus such requirements might be fundamental . |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:58 pm |
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How are the people quoted in the article below likely to respond to a request to knock down the houses they have built so that the land can be returned to the original TC owner?
Article in the Sunday Mail, 19th March 2006
"WE HAVE been shouting and protesting for 30 years because the Turkish Cypriots have been building on our property. But the legitimate government (of Cyprus) gave us money to build houses on the properties of the Turkish Cypriots. And at the time they lied to us, telling us that they had given us state land. This was what was written on the documents we signed."
I retained these words, uttered by a frustrated citizen in a television news story about a noisy protest held last Tuesday in Polemidia by hundreds of displaced persons who had built houses on plots given to them by the Spyros Kyprianou government some 30 years ago.
In the same report, a woman, who was visibly angry, said: "We were fooled. They brought us here, gave us land belonging to the Turkish Cypriots and, through a life of hard toil, we built our houses on it, married, brought up our children and now they are telling us to leave and that they will give us a plot somewhere else. In other words, we have to start from the beginning again. We will never leave. We will stay here and if they dare, they can come and kick us out. "
Similar sentiments were expressed by several other protesters. I consider the words of these people very important because they expose, in the most damning way, the absurdity of the policy we followed in the post-1974 years. The policy was centred on the nefarious slogan, ‘All refugees will return to their homes’. ..... |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:54 pm |
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| Vincehugo wrote: |
How are the people quoted in the article below likely to respond to a request to knock down the houses they have built so that the land can be returned to the original TC owner?
Article in the Sunday Mail, 19th March 2006
"WE HAVE been shouting and protesting for 30 years because the Turkish Cypriots have been building on our property. But the legitimate government (of Cyprus) gave us money to build houses on the properties of the Turkish Cypriots. And at the time they lied to us, telling us that they had given us state land. This was what was written on the documents we signed."
I retained these words, uttered by a frustrated citizen in a television news story about a noisy protest held last Tuesday in Polemidia by hundreds of displaced persons who had built houses on plots given to them by the Spyros Kyprianou government some 30 years ago.
In the same report, a woman, who was visibly angry, said: "We were fooled. They brought us here, gave us land belonging to the Turkish Cypriots and, through a life of hard toil, we built our houses on it, married, brought up our children and now they are telling us to leave and that they will give us a plot somewhere else. In other words, we have to start from the beginning again. We will never leave. We will stay here and if they dare, they can come and kick us out. "
Similar sentiments were expressed by several other protesters. I consider the words of these people very important because they expose, in the most damning way, the absurdity of the policy we followed in the post-1974 years. The policy was centred on the nefarious slogan, ‘All refugees will return to their homes’. ..... |
Heaven forbid, are you implying that our beloved roc actually broke their own laws.
Wash your mouth with roc soap and say 10 roc banaiyamus and hold your breath till eternity.
How dare you come on this free forum and criticise our beloved roc.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:19 am |
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| YFred wrote: |
| Vincehugo wrote: |
How are the people quoted in the article below likely to respond to a request to knock down the houses they have built so that the land can be returned to the original TC owner?
Article in the Sunday Mail, 19th March 2006
"WE HAVE been shouting and protesting for 30 years because the Turkish Cypriots have been building on our property. But the legitimate government (of Cyprus) gave us money to build houses on the properties of the Turkish Cypriots. And at the time they lied to us, telling us that they had given us state land. This was what was written on the documents we signed."
I retained these words, uttered by a frustrated citizen in a television news story about a noisy protest held last Tuesday in Polemidia by hundreds of displaced persons who had built houses on plots given to them by the Spyros Kyprianou government some 30 years ago.
In the same report, a woman, who was visibly angry, said: "We were fooled. They brought us here, gave us land belonging to the Turkish Cypriots and, through a life of hard toil, we built our houses on it, married, brought up our children and now they are telling us to leave and that they will give us a plot somewhere else. In other words, we have to start from the beginning again. We will never leave. We will stay here and if they dare, they can come and kick us out. "
Similar sentiments were expressed by several other protesters. I consider the words of these people very important because they expose, in the most damning way, the absurdity of the policy we followed in the post-1974 years. The policy was centred on the nefarious slogan, ‘All refugees will return to their homes’. ..... |
Heaven forbid, are you implying that our beloved roc actually broke their own laws.
Wash your mouth with roc soap and say 10 roc banaiyamus and hold your breath till eternity.
How dare you come on this free forum and criticise our beloved roc.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:49 am |
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| Viewpoint wrote: |
| YFred wrote: |
| Vincehugo wrote: |
How are the people quoted in the article below likely to respond to a request to knock down the houses they have built so that the land can be returned to the original TC owner?
Article in the Sunday Mail, 19th March 2006
"WE HAVE been shouting and protesting for 30 years because the Turkish Cypriots have been building on our property. But the legitimate government (of Cyprus) gave us money to build houses on the properties of the Turkish Cypriots. And at the time they lied to us, telling us that they had given us state land. This was what was written on the documents we signed."
I retained these words, uttered by a frustrated citizen in a television news story about a noisy protest held last Tuesday in Polemidia by hundreds of displaced persons who had built houses on plots given to them by the Spyros Kyprianou government some 30 years ago.
In the same report, a woman, who was visibly angry, said: "We were fooled. They brought us here, gave us land belonging to the Turkish Cypriots and, through a life of hard toil, we built our houses on it, married, brought up our children and now they are telling us to leave and that they will give us a plot somewhere else. In other words, we have to start from the beginning again. We will never leave. We will stay here and if they dare, they can come and kick us out. "
Similar sentiments were expressed by several other protesters. I consider the words of these people very important because they expose, in the most damning way, the absurdity of the policy we followed in the post-1974 years. The policy was centred on the nefarious slogan, ‘All refugees will return to their homes’. ..... |
Heaven forbid, are you implying that our beloved roc actually broke their own laws.
Wash your mouth with roc soap and say 10 roc banaiyamus and hold your breath till eternity.
How dare you come on this free forum and criticise our beloved roc.
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banaiyamus |
Another excellent biased article by Loucas Charalambous. I'm starting to think this is becoming the Loucas Charalambous appreication society.
This article was ridiculed by Philelefteros as complete crap and was actually the start of the end for Loucas charalambous. He has become the laughing stock of Cypriot journalism due to his allergy to facts and undying hate towards the Papadopoulos years.
Try again boys, there's no Cypriot citizen of GC ethnic background that has a right to sell property that was TC.
Face it, we're just not allowed due to a little thing we have over here called laws. |
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| What about all the TC land you "appropriated" when will you pay for it or is that "legal" as well? |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:17 am |
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| Vincehugo wrote: |
How are the people quoted in the article below likely to respond to a request to knock down the houses they have built so that the land can be returned to the original TC owner?
Article in the Sunday Mail, 19th March 2006 |
Something that only Loucas Charalambous seemed to “know” about! 
And the puppet state quickly capitalized on it…
http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/2002/ENGLISH/ARTICALSandCOMMENTS/AC91.htm
In fact the ONLY sources/references to this article are Turkish Cypriot propaganda. Isn’t that amazing! 
If something is too good to be true chances are it isn’t! |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:19 am |
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| Viewpoint wrote: |
| What about all the TC land you "appropriated" when will you pay for it or is that "legal" as well? |
If you mean "Expropriated" then...
Obligatory Expropriation Law #15/62
(In Greek: Περί Αναγκαστικής Απαλλοτρίωσης Νόμου Αρ. 15/62)
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenscharter/CitizensCharter.nsf/All/0CC4C9A9BA139350C2256E5400397962?OpenDocument
In which case, reimbursement/compensation is based on (1) the current value of the land/property being expropriated, (2) plus 9% interest from the date of notice of the intent, (3) plus any damages incurred as a result of the expropriation. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:23 am |
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Actually, if you read the article, the Greek Cypriots are saying that they were given the TC land AND money to build houses on it by the Government. So it MAY be the case that "no Cypriot citizen of GC ethnic background that has a right to sell property that was TC". But it would appear that the GC Government believe they have the right to fund the building of houses on TC land. That's going to be awfully messy to untangle through the GC courts, isn't it?
And I can quite understand why this article was the "start of the end" for Loucas Charalambous. It's not good to have these sort of stories publicised while the GC Government are preaching a "whiter than white" position on property.
When the "article was ridiculed by Philelefteros as complete crap" did they actually go to Polemedia and establish the facts? |
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