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EU Objective 1 status for "Northern" Cyprus.

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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:31 pm

Btw peanut brain,

Have a good look at useless countries on that table like Greece, Spain, Ireland, and Portugal, which have been sponging off the EU for decades with nothing to contribute!

They are the ones you should direct your anger at, not cute little Cyprus that pays her way! :evil:
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:39 pm

GR,

Pray, ...where are the figures from 2008 to 2010?? Your assuming again i take it...
Now look at the figures from 2004 to 2006, and compare them to the figure for 2007

Pretty good deal you've had if you ask me, and believe your own credible source...
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:53 pm

larnacaman wrote:GR,

Pray, ...where are the figures from 2008 to 2010?? Your assuming again i take it...
Now look at the figures from 2004 to 2006, and compare them to the figure for 2007

Pretty good deal you've had if you ask me, and believe your own credible source...


Overall picture…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_ ... pean_Union

Good graphs take a while to load here…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8036097.stm
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:57 pm

GR,

The wikipedia article relates to forecasts, 2007 thru 2013 That can, and probably will change. They are based on the last verifiable budget figures which were for the year 2007. They are actually still working on the 2008 figures??? Incredible!!!

The BBC graphs look very nice, but no real information given, and difficult to read....

So in conclusion, There are no official figures for years 2008 till the present!!! Makes you wonder that, Maybe cooking the books at the EU is getting much, much harder these days.... lol!!!

Anyway GR, unfortunately you have no hard facts saying Cyprus has been a net contributor since 2007 to date. You may be right, but you may also be wrong this time.
In 2007 you ''were'' a net contributor, but the 3 previous year you were not and the sums then given, by far outweighed that net contribution many many times over...
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Postby MoonageDaydream » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:10 pm

Surely the main point here is that EU Objective 1 + 2 funds always change in the light of circumstances. So after the accessions in the last 10 years parts of the UK and Ireland lost Obj 1 status, and countried in eastern Europe were granted it. When Cyprus is re-unified, it is likely that the northern zone in any bizonal federation would qualify for Obj 1 status.

Surely that is a positive? There would be a benefit for the whole island. The objective 1 funding that Cornwall has wasn't at the expense of Devon was it?
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:48 pm

MoonageDaydream,

Exactly correct, and the South will lose that Obj 1 Status, as the North's need, will greatly outweigh those of the South.

The main argument here at the moment stems around the question of how much it's all going to eventually cost RoC, for the reconstruction of the north.. And if it indeed has the economy and where for all to pay for it, even with the EU contributions/grants. Some are talking in millions others in tens of millions, or hundreds of millions. when really they should be thinking in Billions, and in tens of billions as a starting point!!!

Unfortunately like everything else here, the thread gets high-jacked by the usual gutter dwellers, so that nothing meaningful will ever get debated or explored. Just the usual bad mouthed shit throwing contest...

It's the Same on almost every thread here....
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Postby B25 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:26 pm

Larnacaman,

you have asked the same question over and over about who is going to pay, prey tell us, what this has to do with you?? Why do you even care??
I suspect you are either a TC or just an antogonistic carpet bagger on a wind up.

In cyprus we have a saying, first get on the horse then start to swings your legs.

Our priority to to regain our country, how we finally pay for anything is our business and thanks for caring, but kindly sod off and let the Cypriots sort out Cyprus.

Just as aside, I can't help getting the feeling that you may also be gasman in desguise or even her other half propogating ill feeling amongst the GC community.

Of course you can have an opinion, but yours is to force feed us and try to back us into a corner, well I have news for you, we can strke back, so take good care.

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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:27 pm

larnacaman wrote:MoonageDaydream,

Exactly correct, and the South will lose that Obj 1 Status, as the North's need, will greatly outweigh those of the South.

The main argument here at the moment stems around the question of how much it's all going to eventually cost RoC, for the reconstruction of the north.. And if it indeed has the economy and where for all to pay for it, even with the EU contributions/grants. Some are talking in millions others in tens of millions, or hundreds of millions. when really they should be thinking in Billions, and in tens of billions as a starting point!!!

Unfortunately like everything else here, the thread gets high-jacked by the usual gutter dwellers, so that nothing meaningful will ever get debated or explored. Just the usual bad mouthed shit throwing contest...

It's the Same on almost every thread here....


What you are missing is that all these will be relevant only if the Cyprus Problem is solved. And the only solution that will be accepted by the Cypriot people is one that liberates the north part of Cyprus from foreign occupation.
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Postby Gasman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:54 pm

Just as aside, I can't help getting the feeling that you may also be gasman in desguise or even her other half propogating ill feeling amongst the GC community.


Wash yer mouth out Piratis. Gasman would not live in a British Protectorate in Cyprus like Pervolia or Polis.

I leave those to the wannabee UK Cyps who want to 'feel at home' among their fellow Brits when they holiday here.

Gasman wouldn't have multiple IDs either. Unlike lady O who has several and can even be seen on some threads posting with TWO! Seriously disturbed that is!

*does EVERYONE who disagrees with you have to be someone in disguise?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:55 pm

larnacaman wrote:GR,

The wikipedia article relates to forecasts, 2007 thru 2013 That can, and probably will change. They are based on the last verifiable budget figures which were for the year 2007. They are actually still working on the 2008 figures??? Incredible!!!

The BBC graphs look very nice, but no real information given, and difficult to read....

So in conclusion, There are no official figures for years 2008 till the present!!! Makes you wonder that, Maybe cooking the books at the EU is getting much, much harder these days.... lol!!!

Anyway GR, unfortunately you have no hard facts saying Cyprus has been a net contributor since 2007 to date. You may be right, but you may also be wrong this time.
In 2007 you ''were'' a net contributor, but the 3 previous year you were not and the sums then given, by far outweighed that net contribution many many times over...

No worries… you’ll get the picture eventually! :wink:


From an article dated 23.8.2010 which verifies Cyprus as a net contributor…

“In any case, Finland is one of the EU’s smallest net contributors. For instance, in the most recent statistical year, 2007, Finland’s net contribution to the EU was 0.1 per cent of GDP. Only Cyprus had a smaller net contribution.”

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Finlan ... 5246248120


Figures/graph showing Cyprus as a net contributor for 2008…

http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.as ... &method=pc


A 2009 article clearly showing Cyprus in the net contributors’ group with 49.2 million to pay!

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3941


Had enough yet? :lol:
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