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Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:34 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Oracle wrote:It's the answers which you don't like!

Are you sure you're not employing selective hearing?


I hear lots of bluff and bravado and the bandying about of large sums of money, but what I don't hear is where is it going to come from and what will you have to give up for it.

And why are you so “concerned”? It’s not like you’ve got the intellect to brainstorm anything of value! :lol:

Just beat it dude and stop making a fool of yourself! :roll:
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Oracle wrote:It's the answers which you don't like!

Are you sure you're not employing selective hearing?


I hear lots of bluff and bravado and the bandying about of large sums of money, but what I don't hear is where is it going to come from and what will you have to give up for it.

And why are you so “concerned”? It’s not like you’ve got the intellect to brainstorm anything of value! :lol:

Just beat it dude and stop making a fool of yourself! :roll:


The reason I am concerned is I don't think you know what you are taking on and once you do, the temptation will be to let the North idle in your wake. I live in the north and I want to see it prosper.
I do have some concept of what it will cost, having seen what happned when E & W Germany were reunited. I realise that we are talking different scales here, but proportionally the impact will be the same.
My intellect might be limited but the cost of the reconstruction of the north will be almost unlimited, as you may find to your cost.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:25 pm

Spare us your concern and crocodile tears. Just leave our country, if you really care. If you really cared, you wouldn't have added to the problem. Now, do us all a favour and stop pretending you are doing anything more than hoping we never get our country back -- purely so that you are unaffected, personally and financially, and never mind the 200,000 waiting to return to their homes!
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:05 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:My intellect might be limited but the cost of the reconstruction of the north will be almost unlimited, as you may find to your cost.


If crooks managed to hoodwink you into squandering your grandchildren's inheritance for a chance to trespass on someone's land in the north, there's no might about it.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:20 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Oracle wrote:It's the answers which you don't like!

Are you sure you're not employing selective hearing?


I hear lots of bluff and bravado and the bandying about of large sums of money, but what I don't hear is where is it going to come from and what will you have to give up for it.

And why are you so “concerned”? It’s not like you’ve got the intellect to brainstorm anything of value! :lol:

Just beat it dude and stop making a fool of yourself! :roll:


The reason I am concerned is I don't think you know what you are taking on and once you do, the temptation will be to let the North idle in your wake. I live in the north and I want to see it prosper.
I do have some concept of what it will cost, having seen what happned when E & W Germany were reunited. I realise that we are talking different scales here, but proportionally the impact will be the same.
My intellect might be limited but the cost of the reconstruction of the north will be almost unlimited, as you may find to your cost.

What you’re saying here is based on a multitude of assumptions… the funniest of which is that carpetbaggers such as yourself will be part of a liberated Cyprus and occupying Cypriot properties with their only worry being the lagging infrastructure! Image
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:46 am

Get Real! wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Oracle wrote:It's the answers which you don't like!

Are you sure you're not employing selective hearing?


I hear lots of bluff and bravado and the bandying about of large sums of money, but what I don't hear is where is it going to come from and what will you have to give up for it.

And why are you so “concerned”? It’s not like you’ve got the intellect to brainstorm anything of value! :lol:

Just beat it dude and stop making a fool of yourself! :roll:


The reason I am concerned is I don't think you know what you are taking on and once you do, the temptation will be to let the North idle in your wake. I live in the north and I want to see it prosper.
I do have some concept of what it will cost, having seen what happned when E & W Germany were reunited. I realise that we are talking different scales here, but proportionally the impact will be the same.
My intellect might be limited but the cost of the reconstruction of the north will be almost unlimited, as you may find to your cost.

What you’re saying here is based on a multitude of assumptions… the funniest of which is that carpetbaggers such as yourself will be part of a liberated Cyprus and occupying Cypriot properties with their only worry being the lagging infrastructure! Image


If, as some of you insist, the RoC is a net contributor to the EU, then the payment, by GC taxpayers, of the reconstruction of the North has already begun.
80% of the funds spent through the Regional Policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_p ... pean_Union of the EU is to raise the living standards and conditions of the "poorer" members towards an equivalence of the "richer" members. The EU has been paying for infrastructure schemes and projects in the North for some time now, for the above reasons.
Once the North, subject to a solution, joins the EU proper, the EU will go into overdrive in the North as regards the Regional Policy.

Some CF members seem to think the RoC can do this on its own using goverment revenue, but how will PAYE taxpayers react when it is seen that some claimants of very large tracts of land in the North see the value of their claims surge on the back of their taxpayer investmet?

The cost of reconstruction will place a severe burden on the average taxpayer in the RoC, either directly or through net contributions to the EU. These taxpayers may have no territorial claims in the North but will simply have to cough-up for the benefit of others.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:47 am

VW ... what bit of 'we are prepared to do it all ourselves' do you not understand?

This will NOT be the first time!

Now be a good boy and leave so that we may begin ...
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:07 pm

Oracle wrote:VW ... what bit of 'we are prepared to do it all ourselves' do you not understand?

This will NOT be the first time!

Now be a good boy and leave so that we may begin ...



Are you speaking for all Greek Cypriot taxpayers or just those with a vested interest in the North?

The last time you did it you weren't dealing with 36 years of dilapidation.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:49 pm

Oracle wrote:VW ... what bit of 'we are prepared to do it all ourselves' do you not understand?

This will NOT be the first time!

Now be a good boy and leave so that we may begin ...


Are you willing to pay me for all the damage you have caused?

I have not been able to use my farms for over 30 years now, it was all that my family had, leaving them not only peniless but also scared to death.

Do you know how much your racism has cost us?

You do not have a single clue Oracle, you just talk from lalaland!

Or was it Scotland? :lol:

This "foreigner" is more valuable to Cyprus than you can ever be!
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Postby Oracle » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:10 pm

Shahmaran, you and VW are foreigners and you are the bloodsuckers who bleed Cyprus. Take, take, take! Not long ago you were showing off how well you are doing out of the occupied north (both of you).

Every single GC has suffered because of the Turkish invasion(s) and presence (long historical past and present). Each GC stands to regain freedom and/or personal property from the departure of the Turks and carpetbaggers.

Why would you desperately hold on to the north (as impoverished as it is) if you don't believe it has potential? And shah, we are well used to the greedy demands the TCs make (nothing changed about your nature, despite the years) and I am sure if you got rid of the Turks you will be well catered for under the EU (all 70,000 of you).
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