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Re: EU Objective 1 status for "Northern" Cyprus.

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:55 pm

Vaughanwilliams,

Your thread is not going anywhere because your propaganda got the better of you by failing to stick to facts because…

Officially Cyprus has 6 town-states as shown on the map below, so there is no such thing as “north Cyprus”, in fact “north/east/south/west” were never used in Cyprus because the island is too small for such indicators and everyone just went/goes by the town-state names when referring to regions.

Therefore, your question doesn’t even get off the ground because upon the withdrawal of the Turkish military, the official town-state names will be back and there will be no such thing as “north Cyprus” as a region.

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Re: EU Objective 1 status for "Northern" Cyprus.

Postby vaughanwilliams » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:13 am

Get Real! wrote:Vaughanwilliams,

Your thread is not going anywhere because your propaganda got the better of you by failing to stick to facts because…

Officially Cyprus has 6 town-states as shown on the map below, so there is no such thing as “north Cyprus”, in fact “north/east/south/west” were never used in Cyprus because the island is too small for such indicators and everyone just went/goes by the town-state names when referring to regions.

Therefore, your question doesn’t even get off the ground because upon the withdrawal of the Turkish military, the official town-state names will be back and there will be no such thing as “north Cyprus” as a region.

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You haven't grasped what "region" means in the context of the EUs regional policy.
"The Regional policy of the European Union (EU) is a policy with the stated aim of improving the economic well-being of certain regions in the EU. Around one third of the EU's budget is devoted to this policy, the aim of which has been stated to be to remove the disparities in wealth across the EU, restructure declining industrial areas and to diversify rural areas which have declining agriculture."
"Regions qualifying for objective one status include nearly all the regions of the new member states, most of Southern Italy, East Germany, most of Greece and Portugal, and much of Spain and some of the Republic of Ireland. In the United Kingdom, Cornwall, Merseyside, South Yorkshire and much of Wales qualify under objective one."
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Now, Cyprus is a small place but it is a lot bigger than Cornwall, South Yorkshire or Merseyside, and if Merseyside can be called a region then the part of Cyprus currently not under the control of the RoC, will also be classed as a region, probably known as Northern Cyprus.
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Re: EU Objective 1 status for "Northern" Cyprus.

Postby Oracle » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:26 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Vaughanwilliams,

Your thread is not going anywhere because your propaganda got the better of you by failing to stick to facts because…

Officially Cyprus has 6 town-states as shown on the map below, so there is no such thing as “north Cyprus”, in fact “north/east/south/west” were never used in Cyprus because the island is too small for such indicators and everyone just went/goes by the town-state names when referring to regions.

Therefore, your question doesn’t even get off the ground because upon the withdrawal of the Turkish military, the official town-state names will be back and there will be no such thing as “north Cyprus” as a region.

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You haven't grasped what "region" means in the context of the EUs regional policy.
"The Regional policy of the European Union (EU) is a policy with the stated aim of improving the economic well-being of certain regions in the EU. Around one third of the EU's budget is devoted to this policy, the aim of which has been stated to be to remove the disparities in wealth across the EU, restructure declining industrial areas and to diversify rural areas which have declining agriculture."
"Regions qualifying for objective one status include nearly all the regions of the new member states, most of Southern Italy, East Germany, most of Greece and Portugal, and much of Spain and some of the Republic of Ireland. In the United Kingdom, Cornwall, Merseyside, South Yorkshire and much of Wales qualify under objective one."
Wiki.

Now, Cyprus is a small place but it is a lot bigger than Cornwall, South Yorkshire or Merseyside, and if Merseyside can be called a region then the part of Cyprus currently not under the control of the RoC, will also be classed as a region, probably known as Northern Cyprus.


Since Merseyside is classed as a region, why wouldn't Kyrenia be referred to simply as a region? Just because you prefer your fantasy to get the term "Northern Cyprus" in there, somehow? :lol: After all, the whole of the north of England is destitute but the EU hasn't divided England into "Northern England" and "Southern England".

Besides, when the GCs are allowed back to their homes, they will bring the place up to and above EU standards in less time than it takes to file for EU assistance. :wink:
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Re: EU Objective 1 status for "Northern" Cyprus.

Postby vaughanwilliams » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:26 am

Oracle wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Vaughanwilliams,

Your thread is not going anywhere because your propaganda got the better of you by failing to stick to facts because…

Officially Cyprus has 6 town-states as shown on the map below, so there is no such thing as “north Cyprus”, in fact “north/east/south/west” were never used in Cyprus because the island is too small for such indicators and everyone just went/goes by the town-state names when referring to regions.

Therefore, your question doesn’t even get off the ground because upon the withdrawal of the Turkish military, the official town-state names will be back and there will be no such thing as “north Cyprus” as a region.

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You haven't grasped what "region" means in the context of the EUs regional policy.
"The Regional policy of the European Union (EU) is a policy with the stated aim of improving the economic well-being of certain regions in the EU. Around one third of the EU's budget is devoted to this policy, the aim of which has been stated to be to remove the disparities in wealth across the EU, restructure declining industrial areas and to diversify rural areas which have declining agriculture."
"Regions qualifying for objective one status include nearly all the regions of the new member states, most of Southern Italy, East Germany, most of Greece and Portugal, and much of Spain and some of the Republic of Ireland. In the United Kingdom, Cornwall, Merseyside, South Yorkshire and much of Wales qualify under objective one."
Wiki.

Now, Cyprus is a small place but it is a lot bigger than Cornwall, South Yorkshire or Merseyside, and if Merseyside can be called a region then the part of Cyprus currently not under the control of the RoC, will also be classed as a region, probably known as Northern Cyprus.


Since Merseyside is classed as a region, why wouldn't Kyrenia be referred to simply as a region? Just because you prefer your fantasy to get the term "Northern Cyprus" in there, somehow? :lol: After all, the whole of the north of England is destitute but the EU hasn't divided England into "Northern England" and "Southern England".

Besides, when the GCs are allowed back to their homes, they will bring the place up to and above EU standards in less time than it takes to file for EU assistance. :wink:


"why wouldn't Kyrenia be referred to simply as a region?"
It could be called the Kyrenia region if you want, but the region would encompass the whole northern part of Cyprus.
Just to make you happy, let's call it the Kyrenia region of Cyprus.

"..the EU hasn't divided England into "Northern England" and "Southern England".
You're right but it has divided Italy into Northern (Industrial) Italy and Southern (rural) Italy. It will divide Cyprus similarly.

"Besides, when the GCs are allowed back to their homes, they will bring the place up to and above EU standards in less time than it takes to file for EU assistance."
They can do that if they want and are feeling particularly well-off, which is more than they would be by the time they finished.

Have you actually any idea how much money the Kyrenia region will need spending on it to bring it up to EU standards? :roll:

I don't know the exact figures, but bringing East Germany up to West German standards almost bankrupted the Krauts and that was WITH EU assistance. :lol:
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:Capitalizing the “n” in “north Cyprus” implies that occupied Cyprus is a separate country thereby making your post incomprehensible.

Putting your propagandist tendencies aside for this post, at least on this occasion you should’ve written things correctly for your post to make sense! :lol:


get real you want to get real mate and wake up whole of cyprus is occupied
when we no longet have turkish and greeks flags on our island when we breal all ties with turkey and greece,when we stop calling ourselves greek cypriots and turkish cypriots then we are moving towards having something resembling some kind of independence in cyprus,
but for now its a joke and cyprus is a laughign stock of the international community
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Postby larnacaman » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:29 pm

Couldn't agree more with you free_cyprus, Not only a laughing stock, but one which is given a good deal of distance too. No-one want to get involved with the pettyness of it's Politicians, who try to grab out for assistance at anyone who listens to them for too long ...
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:02 pm

I think they are just trying to avoid having to answer the original question, which it clearly is more interesting than who "capitalizes" what, all this schematic nonsense is just an extension of their small pipi and they have to wave it around at any given opportunity :lol:

Obviously that wont work with Oracle, I think she has other deeper issues about some imaginary future regarding her "ethnically pure" island she does not live on :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:13 pm

shahmaran wrote:I think they are just trying to avoid having to answer the original question, which it clearly is more interesting than who "capitalizes" what, all this schematic nonsense is just an extension of their small pipi and they have to wave it around at any given opportunity :lol:

Nonsense is frowned upon and inaccuracies corrected mercilessly on the CF, (just like your “3rd of the population” rubbish the other day), and that led to the downfall of Vaughanwilliam’s nonsensical thread!

But of course, if you think you want to take over and make something out of a lemon be my guest…
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:I think they are just trying to avoid having to answer the original question, which it clearly is more interesting than who "capitalizes" what, all this schematic nonsense is just an extension of their small pipi and they have to wave it around at any given opportunity :lol:

Nonsense is frowned upon and inaccuracies corrected mercilessly on the CF, (just like your “3rd of the population” rubbish the other day), and that led to the downfall of Vaughanwilliam’s nonsensical thread!

But of course, if you think you want to take over and make something out of a lemon be my guest…


I don't make a habit of discussing pointless details GR, you do. That is because you are all about these sorry details, when the reality is that you do NOT have control over half of the island and you probably won't ever again, which is why we don't NEED to raise havoc with shit such as "capital letters" or "names" in every level of your propaganda machine.

It is very sad GR, I am sorry.

And no I do not remember the "3rd of the population" you are on about, probably another case of you trying to ignore the greater truth.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:40 pm

shahmaran wrote:...when the reality is that you do NOT have control over half of the island and you probably won't ever again,

There you go, you're doing it again... since when is 37% half? :roll:

And no I do not remember the "3rd of the population" you are on about, probably another case of you trying to ignore the greater truth.

You claimed TCs were a "third of the population" when in actual fact they were less than a quarter! :roll:

So why did you lie? :?

Well known figures such as “37%” and “18%” cannot be disputed so STICK TO THEM and quit clouding facts!
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