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Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:28 am

fwnh wrote:it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


Hurry up! You have 10 minutes left! :nevil:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:37 am

fwnh wrote:it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


No offence, but your words didn't make much sense. :lol:
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:42 am

A study of DNA analysis established that Turkish Cypriots had more in common genetically with Greek Cypriots than ethnic Turks from the Republic of Turkey.Many prominent Turkish Cypriots have recent ancestors of Greek ethnicity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Cypriots

According
to research by a Turkish genetics engineer Erol Baisal who contacted
research about 15 years ago, the DNA
genes of Greek Cypriots and Turkish
Cypriots are almost identical and undoubtedly much closer than the
corresponding genes of the ‘mainland’ Greeks and Turks
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/cyprus ... IAI1OAJLD2

In 1990 samples from 116 Turkish Cypriot, 303 Greek Cypriot, 235 mainland turks and 174 mainland greeks were tested in the US by professor Huisman.
Genetic illness and DNA expert Dr. Erol Baysal with the assistance of english, turkish, cypriot and greek experts conducted the work, and found that the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot DNA was very close.
http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/8275.asp

Y-Dna haplogroups are found at the following frequencies in Cyprus : J (43.07% including 6.20% J1), E1b1b (20.00%), R1 (12.30% including 9.2% R1b), F (9.20%), I (7.70%), K (4.60%), A (3.10%).[70] J, K, F and E1b1b haplogroups consist of lineages with differential distribution within Middle East, North Africa and Europe while R1 and I are typical in West European populations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus

“Politis” Greek Cypriot newspaper on (30/08/05) provides a very short news piece of an article that was published in “Yeni Duzen” Turkish Cypriot newspaper

Unfortunalety i couldn't get a direct link for the TC newspaper and i couldn;t navigate to the link and politis doesn't have online archives for that long however although the links are not what you can call credible they publish the researchers names... do your own research
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:45 am

Oracle wrote:
fwnh wrote:it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


No offence, but your words didn't make much sense. :lol:


It's been a few years (since the research was published)....
but since you don't take my word for it (since you don't trust me and think that i might be lying )
thank god for that ( for not believing what anyone says without proving himself)...

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Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:47 am

Nice try fwnh, but unfortunately you missed the deadline for 4 minutes! :mrgreen:
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Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:49 am

fwnh wrote:
Oracle wrote:
fwnh wrote:it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


No offence, but your words didn't make much sense. :lol:


It's been a few years (since the research was published)....
but since you don't take my word for it (since you don't trust me and think that i might be lying )
thank god for that ( for not believing what anyone says without proving himself)...

?


Do you mind telling us, if any of the above will help solve the CyProb? :? :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:49 am

No Oracle, he didn't post what you reproduced as a quote.

This is what he posted:
it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


No big bold words in it.
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:51 am

kurupetos wrote:
fwnh wrote:
Oracle wrote:
fwnh wrote:it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


No offence, but your words didn't make much sense. :lol:


It's been a few years (since the research was published)....
but since you don't take my word for it (since you don't trust me and think that i might be lying )
thank god for that ( for not believing what anyone says without proving himself)...

?


Do you mind telling us, if any of the above will help solve the CyProb? :? :lol:


Do you mind reading the title of this post?!? i didn't start this post, the 'conversation' was lead to this point... i didn't suggest anything anyway? have i?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:53 am

fwnh wrote:A study of DNA analysis established that Turkish Cypriots had more in common genetically with Greek Cypriots than ethnic Turks from the Republic of Turkey.Many prominent Turkish Cypriots have recent ancestors of Greek ethnicity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Cypriots

According
to research by a Turkish genetics engineer Erol Baisal who contacted
research about 15 years ago, the DNA
genes of Greek Cypriots and Turkish
Cypriots are almost identical and undoubtedly much closer than the
corresponding genes of the ‘mainland’ Greeks and Turks
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/cyprus ... IAI1OAJLD2

In 1990 samples from 116 Turkish Cypriot, 303 Greek Cypriot, 235 mainland turks and 174 mainland greeks were tested in the US by professor Huisman.
Genetic illness and DNA expert Dr. Erol Baysal with the assistance of english, turkish, cypriot and greek experts conducted the work, and found that the Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot DNA was very close.
http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/8275.asp

Y-Dna haplogroups are found at the following frequencies in Cyprus : J (43.07% including 6.20% J1), E1b1b (20.00%), R1 (12.30% including 9.2% R1b), F (9.20%), I (7.70%), K (4.60%), A (3.10%).[70] J, K, F and E1b1b haplogroups consist of lineages with differential distribution within Middle East, North Africa and Europe while R1 and I are typical in West European populations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus

“Politis” Greek Cypriot newspaper on (30/08/05) provides a very short news piece of an article that was published in “Yeni Duzen” Turkish Cypriot newspaper

Unfortunalety i couldn't get a direct link for the TC newspaper and i couldn;t navigate to the link and politis doesn't have online archives for that long however although the links are not what you can call credible they publish the researchers names... do your own research


Don't bother. You are just quoting "proofs" from gossip on fora and Wiki.

The original paper was scrutinised before. The 20 year old study, used far too few samples and they were pre-selected for an environmentally 'favourable' disease, hence not 'natural' population samples!

That sort of study is considered worthless for what you chose to extrapolate it to. You need to look at mitochondrial DNA and Y-Haplogroup analysis as well as various other DNA fingerprint studies, from random samples of populations (in the 100's - thousands ... not 10 or 20).
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Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:53 am

fwnh wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
fwnh wrote:
Oracle wrote:
fwnh wrote:it's been a few years but since you people don't take my word for it :) (thank god for that, don't be selective though) i'll try to find some links that includes the names of the researchers


No offence, but your words didn't make much sense. :lol:


It's been a few years (since the research was published)....
but since you don't take my word for it (since you don't trust me and think that i might be lying )
thank god for that ( for not believing what anyone says without proving himself)...

?


Do you mind telling us, if any of the above will help solve the CyProb? :? :lol:


Do you mind reading the title of this post?!? i didn't start this post, the 'conversation' was lead to this point... i didn't suggest anything anyway? have i?


That's what I read: "Cyprus Problem Solution Proposals" :lol:
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