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Unification of Turkey and Greece...

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Do you want the reunification of Turkey and Greece?

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Unification of Turkey and Greece...

Postby Turker » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:34 pm

Until now we have always thought about the plan of unification of Northern and Southern states of Cyprus. Well, what about the unification, maybe reunification of Turkey and Greece?

I'm asking this especially for the Greek who want a more united state not a loose federation.

Turkey's population is far more than that of Greece's. And a united state would be in favour of Turkey. Then Greece would say it should be a loose federal state which limits some rights such as vote...

So the real problem in the resolution is POPULATION

The fewer you are the more you want a loose federal state. It is a fact. So the greek should understand the concerns of Turks and give up talking about a resolution which makes the minority dependent on the other.

This is my view. No matter from which nation you are you should think that.

A reunification was quite possible and that plan was obviously a well-balanced one not only for Turks but also for the Greek. Yet In everywhere there are ones being opposite of that resolution, however we missed a big chance and the destiny of the island now will be decided maybe by the others.


AND I WANNA ASK U ALL A QUESTION:

As Turkish and Greek communities lived together for centuries, and culture and traditions of both nations are smilar, and if required conditions are supplied do you think we should reunificate both states and live together as it was years ago.?

You can have the right to take it serious or not. I only wanna know your opinions about that and approach of u to the other nation.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:23 pm

You confuse things. Greece and Turkey are two independent sates.
Cyprus is one independent state that has been invaded and is currently illegally occupied by a foreign country.

Therefore in the case of Cyprus we are not talking of how we can unite two separate countries. We are talking about how we are going to liberate it from the occupation.

If your country was invaded by lets say Russia to protect the Kurdish minority, would you accept a solution like the Annan plan for you country? (Kurds having a veto for every decision, Russia maintaining troops in Turkey and have the right to intervene whenever they see fit, that the Kurdish state will be much bigger than their population (35% of Turkey) etc) Would you accept such things? I am sure you wouldn't. Therefore don't expect from us to accept such things, and don't tell us that this thing is supposedly balanced!
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Postby mehmet » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:47 pm

if Turkey joins EU (a big if) unless they specifically prohibited it there would be nothing to stop Turks living in Salonika and Greeks living in Izmir.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:17 pm

When hearing the TCs saying the Anan Plan was balanced really makes me laugh.
Read here and then tell me how balanced it was.
http://www.argyrosargyrou.fsnet.co.uk/a ... n/english/
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Postby michalis5354 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:04 pm

It is a very good idea !
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Postby michalis5354 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:15 pm

Yes the Original version of the Plan was balanced and there is nothing wrong with the plan . What is wrong is the weakness of those who reject it to propose something else!
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Postby michalis5354 » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:52 pm

EDIT
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Postby PEACE » Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:48 pm

You confuse things. Greece and Turkey are two independent sates.
Cyprus is one independent state that has been invaded and is currently illegally occupied by a foreign country.


OK lets think about that Greece and Turkey are not two independent states.Think that this two will make a federation between them.
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Postby X-ite » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:40 pm

Greece and Turkey are two independent countries. What REunification are you talking about?
With Cyprus it's different, there's only one state in Cyprus and until the Cyprus problem is solved there will be no other state here (not even a constituent one ...!) Cypriots are not Turkish and Greek, they are Cypriots who have Greek or Turkish descent. Descent shouldn't get in the way of progress.
But for the Greeks and the Turks there is no need to unite
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Postby PEACE » Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:58 pm

X-ite wrote:Greece and Turkey are two independent countries. What REunification are you talking about?
With Cyprus it's different, there's only one state in Cyprus and until the Cyprus problem is solved there will be no other state here (not even a constituent one ...!) Cypriots are not Turkish and Greek, they are Cypriots who have Greek or Turkish descent. Descent shouldn't get in the way of progress.
But for the Greeks and the Turks there is no need to unite


Hey, we are just imaging it ! The point is population and style of unification!


You are saying that Cypriots are not Turkish or Greek.In words you can write this...But what about in real? What you feel deep inside?Everytime you make differentation inside !Be honest!


X-ite wrote:But for the Greeks and the Turks there is no need to unite


Hey,what does this mean? :roll:

You are a supporter of seperation or what? There is no need to unite? As you know we are not united de facto.
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