The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Restoring the 1960 Constitution

Propose and discuss specific solutions to aspects of the Cyprus Problem

Should we restore the constitution for peace

Yes
5
83%
No
1
17%
 
Total votes : 6

Postby PEACE » Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:43 am

MicAtCyp wrote:Peace said....They made many many changes and accepted many laws that is completly incompatible withTurkish Cypriots.We didn't approved that laws and changes yet.They did by theirself....."

Thats right! And 98% of them you already accepted and were incorporated in the Anan plan.Remember the 20,000 pages of laws?
So whats your problem? Why don't you say it clearly?


You said No to Annan Plan and its results are completly null.(As it says in Annan Plan)

MicAtCyp wrote:You don't want a Unitary State, you want a separate state in disguise of a so called "federal".


Yes,i don't want an unitary state ! No,i want a federal solution!

MicAtCyp wrote:Federation is too costly my dear. The Government machine gets triplicate in most sectors!! Cyprus is too small a place to affort it economically. The best solution is a Bi-Regional UNITARY state.You will still be the bosses in your living region....


Federation costs too much? But you accepted federal solution in 1977! Too late to say this.

All negotations and UN plans are based on federal solution up to now and i suppose i won't change after this point too.
User avatar
PEACE
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:20 pm
Location: Lefke,Cyprus

Postby X-ite » Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:07 am

You said No to Annan Plan and its results are completly null.


Yes but you said yes, and by doing that you accepted all those laws.
User avatar
X-ite
Member
Member
 
Posts: 70
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:35 am

Postby MicAtCyp » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:50 pm

peace wrote: You said No to Annan Plan and its results are completly null.(As it says in Annan Plan)


Thats fine with me, no problem. So why are you referring to the DEAD Anan Plan all the time?

peace wrote: Federation costs too much? But you accepted federal solution in 1977! Too late to say this.


What our leaders and your leaders accepted in 1977 was not for application 30 years later.Things change....
And in case the new structure will be Federal I will tell you another secret. Each citizen of the TC constituent state will pay at least 2 times more taxes than a citizen of the GC state to feed its own plethora of lazy Government employees.The revenue of each Constituent state IS ITS OWN BUSSINESS! Think about it very carefully!!!! I agree with you that most propably the solution will be a Federal State (and that my personal preference for a Unitary State will remain a Utopia). But when this happens don't complain that NO Greek Cypriot ever warned you about the economic costs involved....
User avatar
MicAtCyp
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1579
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:10 am

Postby insan » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:51 pm

If talks among Klerides and Denktash had been resumed from where they left in 1971 and even today it would be very feasible to restore the 1960 constutition... The negotiations of Denktash and Klerides had deadlocked on local autonomy issue in 1971... All other issues had been accepted reciprocally...

Two communities leaders had never come this closer to each others points of views but the actions of EOKA-B backed by Greek junta destroyed this great opportunity.
User avatar
insan
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 9044
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:33 pm
Location: Somewhere in ur network. ;]

Postby MicAtCyp » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:04 pm

peace wrote: You said No to Annan Plan and its results are completly null.(As it says in Annan Plan)


Thats fine with me, no problem. So why are you referring to that DEAD Anan Plan all the time?

peace wrote: Federation costs too much? But you accepted federal solution in 1977! Too late to say this.


What our leaders and your leaders accepted in 1977 was not for application 30 years later.Things change....
And in case the new structure will be Federal I will tell you another secret. Each citizen of the TC constituent state will pay at least 2 times more taxes than a citizen of the GC state to feed its own plethora of lazy Government employees.The revenue of each Constituent state IS ITS OWN BUSSINESS! Think about it very carefully!!!! I agree with you that most propably the solution will be a Federal State (and that my personal preference for a Unitary State will remain a Utopia). But when this happens don't complain that NO Greek Cypriot ever warned you about the economic costs involved....
User avatar
MicAtCyp
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1579
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:10 am

Postby PEACE » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:51 am

X-ite wrote:
You said No to Annan Plan and its results are completly null.


Yes but you said yes, and by doing that you accepted all those laws.


Our yes does not mean anything! Look to Annan Plan! It says that if referandum fails than all of the referendum becames null with all of its results!

MicAtCyp wrote:don't complain that NO Greek Cypriot ever warned you about the economic costs involved....


Aaa,thanks for thinking us that way! :roll: No,we won't!


MicAtCyp wrote:Thats fine with me, no problem. So why are you referring to that DEAD Anan Plan all the time?


Because its contect didn't die! It'll come into our plate again with different name and with some changes!
User avatar
PEACE
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:20 pm
Location: Lefke,Cyprus

Postby MicAtCyp » Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:13 am

peace wrote: Our yes does not mean anything! Look to Annan Plan! It says that if referandum fails than all of the referendum becames null with all of its results!


And what is the flag you are carrying in this forum mean then?
Do I sense a lot of contadictions in your arguments my friend?
User avatar
MicAtCyp
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1579
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:10 am

Postby PEACE » Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:00 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:
peace wrote: Our yes does not mean anything! Look to Annan Plan! It says that if referandum fails than all of the referendum becames null with all of its results!


And what is the flag you are carrying in this forum mean then?
Do I sense a lot of contadictions in your arguments my friend?


In the another forum i'm using this flag too and many grey wolves and anti-peace fanatics asked me this question also.

What is my answer??
Till new flag is decided this flag represents unity and peace in Cyprus.So i'm keeping it as my avatar!
User avatar
PEACE
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 386
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:20 pm
Location: Lefke,Cyprus

Previous

Return to Cyprus Problem Solution Proposals

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests