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An end to Turkey's self-importance

Postby Me Ed » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:43 pm

This will put a nail in the coffin of those who delude themselves that the EU needs Turkey to bolster its defences.

Cameron and Sarkozy hail UK-France defence treaties

David Cameron has said new treaties on defence and nuclear joint working with France marked a "new chapter" in a long history of defence co-operation.

Cameron and Sarkozy say the moves will save money without undermining national sovereignty

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:54 pm

:? I can’t see how this has anything to do with Turkey, and not to mention that the notion that European nuclear powers the likes of France and Britain need Turkey (a conventional power) for anything military, is laughable! :?

Whoever said that anyway???
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Postby Cap » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:25 pm

Yes, Turkey very popular and an important 'cultural' dish in the US.

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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:16 am

Get Real! wrote::? I can’t see how this has anything to do with Turkey, and not to mention that the notion that European nuclear powers the likes of France and Britain need Turkey (a conventional power) for anything military, is laughable! :?

Whoever said that anyway???

They know who they are ...
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:18 am

Part of the commentary in the UK is that this could be the beginning of a wider EU defence pact.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:22 am

Me Ed wrote:Part of the commentary in the UK is that this could be the beginning of a wider EU defence pact.

Well about time too...
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:28 am

Me Ed wrote:
Get Real! wrote::? I can’t see how this has anything to do with Turkey, and not to mention that the notion that European nuclear powers the likes of France and Britain need Turkey (a conventional power) for anything military, is laughable! :?

Whoever said that anyway???

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Was it MrH? :lol:
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:34 am

Get Real! wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
Get Real! wrote::? I can’t see how this has anything to do with Turkey, and not to mention that the notion that European nuclear powers the likes of France and Britain need Turkey (a conventional power) for anything military, is laughable! :?

Whoever said that anyway???

They know who they are ...

Was it MrH? :lol:

Oh yes amongst others.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:38 am

...not so Ed, Turkey is an important power militarily because of their numbers; where would NATO be in afghanistan otherwise? also, Turkey has as a policy an alliance with Pakistan, and now Iran among other players who have ambitions that compete with the Occidental world.

...keeping your enemies closer comes to mind.

...we can be happy that this country is not so effecient politically, but we should not be contrite. wiser if we respect the forsight of Ataturk and join in an alliance for Human betterment; never mind the Kemalist at your own risk because they are regressive extremists whose aims return us to a "glory" before this founder of their state..
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:50 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...not so Ed, Turkey is an important power militarily because of their numbers; where would NATO be in afghanistan otherwise?

:? What, a mere 1750 soldiers with their presence restricted in and around Kabul, and only allowed to fire in self defense?

It's clearly a symbolic presence in return for financial and other favors from the US!
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