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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:39 pm

Murtaza wrote:) Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”


what is tabari? is It a surah?


Hadith.
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Postby Murtaza » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:42 pm

how do you know It is truth?
If you know Islam well, you should know there are a lot false and lie hadith.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:52 pm

Murtaza wrote:how do you know It is truth?
If you know Islam well, you should know there are a lot false and lie hadith.


Why?
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Postby Murtaza » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:58 pm

what do you mean why?
Because some people used hadith as they wish, they producted lie hadith, and use it by their wish.

so How do you know that hadith is true?
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Postby Murtaza » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:00 pm

You said you know islam well, but It looks like you dont have any idea about islam.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:04 pm

Murtaza wrote:what do you mean why?
Because some people used hadith as they wish, they producted lie hadith, and use it by their wish.

so How do you know that hadith is true?


But most Islamic Scholars take Tabari to be a perfect source.
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Postby Murtaza » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:15 pm

In fact now, I am looking for who is he. I dont any idea about him.

Tabari. [Categories: Iranian historians] Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari ( (Click
link for more info and facts about AD 838) AD 838- (Click link for ...

I am not genious about Islamic religion, but If he is so famous, at least I should heard him.

Maybe you should read less jihatwatch.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:55 pm

Murtaza wrote:In fact now, I am looking for who is he. I dont any idea about him.

Tabari. [Categories: Iranian historians] Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari ( (Click
link for more info and facts about AD 838) AD 838- (Click link for ...

I am not genious about Islamic religion, but If he is so famous, at least I should heard him.

Maybe you should read less jihatwatch.


Yes, he is taken as one of the best examples of a good sourced Historian through the Hadiths.
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Postby Murtaza » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:58 pm

who?
He is historian not a Islam academist.

As I said I didt know him, and I am not sure what he write is true complately true.

aren you should be more careful, when you are attacking a religion who is accepted so much people. how do you know this hadith are true?

and where did you read this hadith? give link.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:45 pm

Murtaza wrote:who?
He is historian not a Islam academist.

As I said I didt know him, and I am not sure what he write is true complately true.

aren you should be more careful, when you are attacking a religion who is accepted so much people. how do you know this hadith are true?

and where did you read this hadith? give link.


I have a copy of the Quran that has the Hadiths in the back, like a kind of Appendices.

Also, Murtaza, did you know you are not allowed to be friends with Greeks if you are a Muslim, because they are unbelievers?
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