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Postby quattro » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:14 am

CBBB wrote:
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CBBB wrote:Having noticed a CYTA advertisement on a Greek (not Cypriot) TV channel, out of curiosity I thought I would have a look at what our Government owned telecommunications authority charges in Greece compared to Cyprus. It is very interesting.

In Cyprus just for internet at the maximum speed of 12Mbps/768Kbps the installation charge is €78.59 and the monthly fee is €72.90.

https://www.cytawebshop.cyta.com.cy/Ord ... aspx?id=14

In Greece for internet at there maximum speed of 24Mbps/1024Kbps the installation charge is €30 and the monthly fee is €18. I won't go in to additional things that are offered in this package.

http://www.cyta.gr/index.php?ID=1_play_home

So can someone explain why we who own the bastards get totally screwed, whereas the Greeks reap the benefits of us being overcharged?


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talk+surf+view 40M 40Mbps 2Mbps €40 €99


I know that, I am with Cablenet!


Hey martin that 40Mbps line is so hot we can cook on it :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Sotos » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:34 pm

These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.
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Postby quattro » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:47 pm

Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:27 pm

quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth consumption for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:
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Postby quattro » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:31 pm

insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:


I am not the expert here but my line is cable not ADSL
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:38 pm

quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:


I am not the expert here but my line is cable not ADSL


The type of connection doesn't matter... there r proxy severs behind all type of internet connections... their main purpose is to reduce the cost of data stream for isps... and on the other hand provide faster(virtually) access to well known websites and files....
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Postby quattro » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:43 pm

insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:


I am not the expert here but my line is cable not ADSL


The type of connection doesn't matter... there r proxy severs behind all type of internet connections... their main purpose is to reduce the cost of data stream for isps... and on the other hand provide faster(virtually) access to well known websites and files....


and why I am downloading HD movies in few minutes 1gb in 6 min. :?:
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:02 pm

quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:


I am not the expert here but my line is cable not ADSL


The type of connection doesn't matter... there r proxy severs behind all type of internet connections... their main purpose is to reduce the cost of data stream for isps... and on the other hand provide faster(virtually) access to well known websites and files....


and why I am downloading HD movies in few minutes 1gb in 6 min. :?:


... because it previously was downloaded by another customer of ur isp and was stored on the proxy server... if u try downloading some "o day" stuff u wouldn't get that speed...

Most of the "0 day" downloaders r warned by isps as they cost very much to the isps...
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Postby quattro » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:05 pm

insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:


I am not the expert here but my line is cable not ADSL


The type of connection doesn't matter... there r proxy severs behind all type of internet connections... their main purpose is to reduce the cost of data stream for isps... and on the other hand provide faster(virtually) access to well known websites and files....


and why I am downloading HD movies in few minutes 1gb in 6 min. :?:


... because it previously was downloaded by another customer of ur isp and was stored on the proxy server... if u try downloading some "o day" stuff u wouldn't get that speed...

Most of the "0 day" downloaders r warned by isps as they cost very much to the isps...

not using proxys but You know better not my field :roll: :roll:
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Postby insan » Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:33 pm

quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
insan wrote:
quattro wrote:
Sotos wrote:These big numbers are often meaningless. There is no ISP that will give you such high bandwidth without doing traffic shaping.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186154879.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/36115453.png


They may have been using an ISP proxy server. If that is the case, the speed test results are not accurate at all. When the speed test is run from a PC that is using an ISP proxy server, it is the speed between the test server and the proxy, not between the test server and the end user that is actually reported. Most proxy servers are on a very high speed backbone connection. •The speed was tested using some other high speed access line (work, friends cable modem, etc). Speeds are logged to the ISP listed in your DSLReports member profile by default. •They use a caching program that simulates faster speeds, but it is not a


http://www.experts123.com/q/why-do-some ... e-cap.html

The truth is, 99.9 % of isps use those proxy servers inorder to reduce the cost of bandwidth for themselves...
:lol:

How do those capitalists decieve the good hearted lovely people of the wild capitalist world! :lol:

...but hey! Sotos is cleverer than i thought... :wink:


I am not the expert here but my line is cable not ADSL


The type of connection doesn't matter... there r proxy severs behind all type of internet connections... their main purpose is to reduce the cost of data stream for isps... and on the other hand provide faster(virtually) access to well known websites and files....


and why I am downloading HD movies in few minutes 1gb in 6 min. :?:


... because it previously was downloaded by another customer of ur isp and was stored on the proxy server... if u try downloading some "o day" stuff u wouldn't get that speed...

Most of the "0 day" downloaders r warned by isps as they cost very much to the isps...

not using proxys but You know better not my field :roll: :roll:


U r not the one having the proxy server... u r isp has it and therefore u use it ...

The Cause

ISP´s in an effort to control & minimise network traffic sometimes “kindly?” introduce a “transparent” web proxy server for it’s customers.

The “proxy” [cache] intercepts most of the requests you make to the Internet via your web-browser. For example, when you type in http://www.microsoft.com, the request for content is initially serviced by the ISP´s proxy server. If someone has recently requested http://www.microsoft.com, your content request is fulfilled by the ISP´s proxy server based on a page that has been retrieved previously. The idea is that, rather than go half way around the planet for your content, it’s faster to fetch it “locally” from the proxy server.
Proxy Benefits to ISP’s

The “official” line on a proxy server will likely be along the lines of “..improving speed for our customers” etc. Although this can be true in most instances, there are occasions when the reality is somewhat different. The basis for introducing “caching” into a network is primarily to assist ISP´s reduce overall bandwidth requirements (and therefore cost).
Proxy Benefits to Users (Theoretical)

In “theory”, it should be faster to fetch web page content locally from a proxy server. This “theory” hold true when based on 2 fundamental assumptions:

1. The nature of the page is “Static”. By “Static” we mean that content is non-data driven and does not change on a frequent basis. A good example of such a page is any page ending in “.htm” or “html” extensions.
2. The proxy server is configured correctly and has sufficient hardware & bandwidth resources to service all requests.


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