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This is not an excuse but a real logical reason....

Postby insan » Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:10 am

I discovered that there were no intercommunal violance between the years 1962-67 and 71-74 ... There was an inter paramilitary violance in those periods...

Those paramilitary groups provoked and enforced ordinary innocents to serve their prohibited aims aka Taksim/Enosis...

Taksim and Enosis have nothing related with anti-communism but deep relations with those so-called nationalists interests...

As it is a well known fact those paramilitary groups had comprised from right-winged, anti-communist so-called nationalist...

According to those so called nationalists a communist couldn't be a Greek or Turkbut perhaps Russian ... A communist is a communist who had to be killed, oppressed and driven away from Cyprus.

Anyway... Finaly they managed to take those communists under their control afterwards 1974 but still there is an ocular strife of scar upon them...

This situation, especially exposes itself into view in July and August... Every year on the same same days they remember how badly had been let down by the others... Leftists commemorate the resitance fighters while Desi presented at the memorial service of Grivas... Are those facts known and approved by vast majority of their ideological supporters? I assume yes...

On the other hand vast majority of TCs celebrate/observe the days in the meaning of being rescued by Turkey; against EOKA-Bs oppression, murderings and Enosis... In the following days they also visit the graves of their losses and have a memorial service for them...


This is obviously and absolutely a meaningless absurdity to me... How can those people explain each other what and why they do? Are what they doing connective or divisive? Is it possible for those people who have this mentality to live together in peace and harmony?

Vast majority of Cypriots visit each other, have good time, drink, eat, buy, sell things with each other.. but have you ever heard that ex-TMT paramilitaries and ex-EOKA-B paramilitaries had come together to apollogy, repent and ask Cypriots forgiveness? Has any of our "brave" journalists invited/called those ex-paramilitary gunmen to such an event...?

The jingoist of Cyprus left off their guns but now they have stronger weapons to attack any target they wish to destroy... They have mass media establishments... It can easily be seen that for those extremists; opposition will just take a while to travel from their heads to their fists...

In conclusion, the problem wasn't amongst the vast majority of TCs and GCs and isn't... Never has been... and never will be...

So... Are the vast majority of Cypriots hostages in the hands of a bunch of strong and terryfying extremists?

When an ordinary Cypriot who have good relations with the members of other community say that doesn't trust the other party; be sure of that means, doesn't trust the extremists...


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Re: This is not an excuse but a real logical reason....

Postby mehmet » Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:25 pm

[quote="insan"]I discovered that there were no intercommunal violance between the years 1962-67 and 71-74 ... There was an inter paramilitary violance in those periods...

There was plenty of violence and many innocent victims.
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Postby michalis5354 » Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:00 pm

It reminds me the situation in Palestine to be honest ! All these organisations Jihad are called as terrorsit organisations and not freedom fighters!
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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:41 pm

There was a weak government unable to enforce the laws and punish those that were responsible for all those violenece. Uncertainty therefore was at its maximum and the feeling of insecurity was high! Obviously there is a huge blame and responsibility for the government that was weak and unable to establish the order! These are all our mistakes and not foreigns !

IF anyone knows here! What was Papadopoulos role in the above environment?

And another question : In an an interview taken place few years ago Sampson- the man who was selected by military regime in Athens to replace Makarios - refused all allegations placed to him that he did all these actions intentionally . He claimed that he has been forced by The military dictators in Athens to replace Makarios otherwise his life was in danger! I did not believe him to be honest as he seemed to be acting! What do you think ?
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