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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:35 pm

samarkeolog wrote:
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samarkeolog wrote:Sorry, I can't get on here often, or stay long, but I don't have internet access at home.

I hope everyone I used to be in contact with is still busy making a scene somewhere or other between Green Lanes and the Green Line.

During my fieldwork, I found some of the DMP's 'yeter' graffiti on a church wall in Lapithos/Lapta. But, I also found other open hand graffiti, which I thought might be a protective Hand of Fatima on a cemetery wall in Lefkoniko/Geçitkale. Does anyone know?

Also, there are some Arabic inscriptions in Palea Enklistra. They're quite damaged, but I thought there was a very slight chance someone might have some idea of what they said.
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On a church building, in Arabic it ha the word for GOD/ALLAH and then PALESTINE. On the one with the star of david is the name of the graffitti artist. Not totally legible, but begins with 'Muhammed' then a surname. Defo not TC. The hand could be an emblem of some party, but not so sure. If the fingers were wide spread, it would be an offensive gesture, but these do look like the hand of Fatima.

Nice to see you back in circulation Samarkeolog. :D


Nice to be back amca.

Thanks, that's really interesting. I'll update the blog. I'd love to know whether it was 'aggressive' graffiti or 'devotional' graffiti (like the ships and other carvings).

I mean, if Muhammed had wanted to desecrate a Christian image, he could have written his name over the face of the
saint; but he chose to write it inside the Star of David, 'in' the saint's hand.


I wish the photos were head on; though I do realise it may have bee difficult. I will have another look to see the boats you mention.

Keep up the good work.

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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby samarkeolog » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:51 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
samarkeolog wrote:Sorry, I can't get on here often, or stay long, but I don't have internet access at home.

I hope everyone I used to be in contact with is still busy making a scene somewhere or other between Green Lanes and the Green Line.

During my fieldwork, I found some of the DMP's 'yeter' graffiti on a church wall in Lapithos/Lapta. But, I also found other open hand graffiti, which I thought might be a protective Hand of Fatima on a cemetery wall in Lefkoniko/Geçitkale. Does anyone know?

Also, there are some Arabic inscriptions in Palea Enklistra. They're quite damaged, but I thought there was a very slight chance someone might have some idea of what they said.
Cheers, geia sas, sağ olun!


On a church building, in Arabic it ha the word for GOD/ALLAH and then PALESTINE. On the one with the star of david is the name of the graffitti artist. Not totally legible, but begins with 'Muhammed' then a surname. Defo not TC. The hand could be an emblem of some party, but not so sure. If the fingers were wide spread, it would be an offensive gesture, but these do look like the hand of Fatima.

Nice to see you back in circulation Samarkeolog. :D


Nice to be back amca.

Thanks, that's really interesting. I'll update the blog. I'd love to know whether it was 'aggressive' graffiti or 'devotional' graffiti (like the ships and other carvings).

I mean, if Muhammed had wanted to desecrate a Christian image, he could have written his name over the face of the
saint; but he chose to write it inside the Star of David, 'in' the saint's hand.


I wish the photos were head on; though I do realise it may have bee difficult. I will have another look to see the boats you mention.

Keep up the good work.

Regards

DenizA


In the first photo, there's one ship by the saint's left shoulder (but there were lots of others all over the chapel). There's also a camel/horse on his right arm and a fish beneath that.

Yeah, sorry about the camera(work) - small space, not-excellent camera, no-good photographer... Still, I tried - I had to lie flat on my back to get one of my other photos! Maybe I'll do a follow-up post with more of the photos from the chapel...
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby samarkeolog » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:12 pm

denizaksulu wrote:On a church building, in Arabic it ha the word for GOD/ALLAH and then PALESTINE.


Do you mean the fourth picture (outside), the guest house? That'd make sense, as I think there are some Palestinian workers and asylum seekers/refugees in the neighbourhood.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby samarkeolog » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:48 pm

I've updated the original blog posts, and put up a new one noting that it probably was a protective Hand of Fatima. I posted some more photos of Star of David and ship graffiti from the chapel at the end.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:24 pm

Nothing to add the Samarkeolog except the name I mentioned is Muhsin and not Muhammed. Verified by Emma Ruby who I sought confirmation from.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby samarkeolog » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Nothing to add the Samarkeolog except the name I mentioned is Muhsin and not Muhammed. Verified by Emma Ruby who I sought confirmation from.


Thank you (both!). I wish he'd carved his name in big, clear letters... :?
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:01 pm

Most was scratched off so illegible according to Emma. Not much sense could be made.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby samarkeolog » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Most was scratched off so illegible according to Emma. Not much sense could be made.


Yeah. Still, it's something - it's more than we started with.
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Re: Turkish Cypriot and Arabic graffiti on Christian buildin

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:48 pm

Glad to be of help. Always.
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