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[GreekIslandGirl]

ECHR: Cyprus among the BEST. Turkey the worst!

January 27, 2012
Cyprus, along with Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Belgium, San Marino and the Czech Republic, ranks low in the list of countries found guilty of human rights violations by the European Court of Human Rights.
Cyprus features in the last places among the 47 member-states of the Council of Europe which have been convicted by the European Court for at least one human right violation.
Turkey tops the bill with 159 convictions in as many cases ....

http://m.cyprus-mail.com/echr/echr-low- ... s/20120127

[Sotos]

newgeneration, do you know why the "trnc" is not recognized by anybody except Turkey? Because it is illegal. And do you know why it is illegal? Because the whole Cyprus belongs to us, the Cypriots, and not to the thieving Turks. North Cyprus IS NOT "Turkish Cyprus" but "ILLEGALLY Turkish OCCUPIED Cyprus". The Turks in Cyprus are FOREIGN INVADERS and no part of our island belongs to them. The pseudo state that Turkey declared on the land they stole is declared as legally invalid by the UN. The ONLY state that exists for the whole island is the Republic of Cyprus. And since the Republic of Cyprus didn't give any licence to any of those "universities" you talk about that means their activities are illegal and the degrees they give worthless.

[newgeneration]

Sotos, do you know why Turkey had to exercise their right as guarantor state of Cyprus and intervene to stop the mass genocide of Turkish Cypriots?

[Sotos]

We are all well aware Cypriots both Greek and Turkish and not particularly forward thinking in terms of Gay Rights.

This may not even be a consideration for the OP.

You have missed the point in the ROC it is legal in the north it is illegal......

It is nowhere in Cyprus illegal since the laws for the whole Cyprus are set by Republic of Cyprus. But because the north part of Cyprus is illegally occupied by Turkish invaders the RoC is not able to enforce the laws there so the Turkish army and other Turkish thugs with guns are illegally forcing their criminal mafia rules.

[newgeneration]

And you have avoided my question. The main problem with many of the extremists on this forum, that they are only able to hear what they want to hear.

[Sotos]

Sotos, do you know why Turkey had to exercise their right as guarantor state of Cyprus and intervene to stop the mass genocide of Turkish Cypriots?

How can I know something which never happened? There was never any "mass genocide of Turkish Cypriots", it is only the Turks who committed mass genocides against Cypriots. And Turkey didn't have any right to invade Cyprus, murder many thousands of people, ethnically cleanse Cypriots from the north and partition Cyprus. The only right they had as a guarantor was to protect the independence and territorial integrity of RoC but they did the exact opposite of that!!! If you believe all those nonsense that you have been brainwashed with then no wonder you can not understand why the "trnc" was declared legally invalid by the UN and no wonder that you think that north Cyprus is Turkish ... you have no clue about the history of our island!! Talking about genocides... it did happen to Cyprus, but much earlier

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Word of the massacre spread, and a few days later Mustafa took Kyrenia without having to fire a shot. Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a heroic defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.

Maybe is time to learn the history of this island and how you Turks came to being in our island. You committed a genocide against us and then you came and you stole our lands. That is how your history in Cyprus begins. And in 1974 you did more of the same. Again invading us, killing us and bringing more Turkish Settlers to steal more of our lands.

[newgeneration]

There is no talking to someone who has closed their eyes to things they don't want to believe.

Both sides of my family, TC and GC were witness to the atrocities of '63 and '64. They are well documented by Turkish, Greek and British authors. There are the mass TC graves found by the UN. There is countless evidence and the personal accounts of people still alive who lived through this.

For the record, though I think it crazy that you want to compare the 1960's with events of over 600 years ago, the Greeks supported the Ottomans overthrowing the Venetians because of the oppression they lived under with Venetian rule.

[humanist]

newgeneration .......... go and study wherever you like. The question you have ask your self is do I want to spend my money to get a degree from a university from a place that doesn't exist?

[newgeneration]

Humanist this has nothing to do with my studies. I completed those long ago ...

Your question should be addressed to the OP. I think he has enough information to make an informed decision for himself now.

[Sotos]

the Greeks supported the Ottomans overthrowing the Venetians because of the oppression they lived under with Venetian rule.

More bullshit that you were brainwashed with! Do you actually believe that?? And in 63 and 64 some 100s of people from BOTH sides died. How is that a "genocide" and what does that have to do with 74 which is a whole decade later? If that is a "genocide" then what about the 1000s that the Turks murdered in 74 and the 20.000 they murdered in Nicosia? Many more GCs are in mass graves but we don't go around talking about "genocides" because we respect the victims of genocides who were in the MILLIONS ... like the Armenian Genocide by the Turks!