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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Lordo » Fri May 06, 2016 8:39 pm

you missed my point my dear fellow, it is upto terggy. if she closes the chapters there is no ifs or buts.
as to he may go too far how far does he have to go. he has gone beyond space ranger infinity and beyond.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 06, 2016 9:21 pm

...what with all the hoopla, and arm twisting like threats, don't you think that it implies that these efforts are not complete, and in Erdogan's Turkey, not so easily met.

...indeed, he sure knows how to bend them, the rules i mean, he is better than most but, it doesn't make him any more a man.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby kurupetos » Sat May 07, 2016 4:29 pm

Erdogan is our better chance for freedom... at least indirectly... :wink:
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 07, 2016 6:12 pm

...there doesn't seem to be an alternative, and he his the type of man who could do it, with a change of intention.

Cyprus may well be the key to him having a legacy which stands out because it is held in such high esteem; he can put himself in a "Greek's" shoes, in Cyprus, for Turkey's own reform, in Turkey.

He can say Cyprus exists, by recognising that Turkey too, is culturally diverse, and acting accordingly.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat May 07, 2016 6:18 pm

To close the chapters Erdogan has to conceed a lot to the EU and in particular abandon many of his political "reforms" which centralise power in him and which do not meet EU obligations regarding Human rights. On his present track he is not going to do it and the EU are hopefully not going to allow him to bend the rules. In my view Erdo must go and some very significant changes must take place before Turkey is ready.

That must include an end to the Cyprus problem with removal of troops, settlers, general return of property, etc
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat May 07, 2016 6:19 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...there doesn't seem to be an alternative, and he his the type of man who could do it, with a change of intention.

Cyprus may well be the key to him having a legacy which stands out because it is held in such high esteem; he can put himself in a "Greek's" shoes, in Cyprus, for Turkey's own reform, in Turkey.

He can say Cyprus exists, by recognising that Turkey too, is culturally diverse, and acting accordingly.


Leopards and spots....
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 07, 2016 6:26 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...there doesn't seem to be an alternative, and he his the type of man who could do it, with a change of intention.

Cyprus may well be the key to him having a legacy which stands out because it is held in such high esteem; he can put himself in a "Greek's" shoes, in Cyprus, for Turkey's own reform, in Turkey.

He can say Cyprus exists, by recognising that Turkey too, is culturally diverse, and acting accordingly.


Leopards and spots....


...can you expand a bit?
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat May 07, 2016 7:24 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...there doesn't seem to be an alternative, and he his the type of man who could do it, with a change of intention.

Cyprus may well be the key to him having a legacy which stands out because it is held in such high esteem; he can put himself in a "Greek's" shoes, in Cyprus, for Turkey's own reform, in Turkey.

He can say Cyprus exists, by recognising that Turkey too, is culturally diverse, and acting accordingly.


Leopards and spots....


...can you expand a bit?
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Erdo has made plain his dislike of the EU because as a megalomaniac he does not want cede any control, which EU Membership requires , while I think multiculturalism is anethema to him. His own idea of his legacy is I think more personal, possibly one for his family to inherit, bearing in mind his son in law is one name mentioned to succeed Davatoglou
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby B25 » Tue May 10, 2016 8:28 am

Music to my ears, about time they stood up to this criminal terrorist shithole.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05 ... ut-turkey/

God knows Greece could do with the money to deal with the shit coming out of Turd-key.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby B25 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:10 pm

Turkey now licking Russian ass!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... mir-putin/

It had to happen, poor old NATO is going to be well and truly fucked off. So much for allies.

Note to the TCs: Your motherland is going to sell you down the shitter as soon as she is finished with you.
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