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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Maximus » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:47 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:Its not irony lordo

Turkey was sending money and arms and other means of support to ISIS but they use ISIS as an excuse to kill kurds and invade Syria and Iraq.

This does not legitimize an invasion and its ludicrous to think so. This makes Turkey a terrorist and a criminal.

went way over your head as per ususal. the irony is that they will attack their own supply lines. i know there is a phrase thick as an arab but never really paid much attention to it on account that it was racists.


At least we agree on that one.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Maximus » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:30 pm

More on Erdogans megalomania,

he is now accusing a nato ally, Germany, of harboouring and aiding terrorists (of the PKK and Gulen kind) and it will hit them like a boomerang.

translated from Erdoganese, what he is basically saying is that Turkey is harbouring and aiding terrorists and he will hit them {germany) and like a boomerang it will come back and hit him too.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/german ... sCatID=510
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Cap » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:23 pm

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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:29 pm

Luxembourg’s foreign minister said on Monday that the Turkish government’s handling of dismissed civil servants reminded him of methods used by the Nazis, and that, sooner or later, the EU would have to respond with sanctions.

Way over due. Starve the bar stewards until they get out of Cyprus as well.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Maximus » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:33 pm

Austria is the next one. Their foreign minister is calling for the EU to get tough on the backwards regime and to stop all EU aid to Turkey. Citing that, our (EU) policy has remained the same and consistent but Turkey keeps changing its policy and is keeps moving away from the EU criteria. T

his should be the top of the agenda for their next meeting.
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:18 pm

Let's hope if the EU grows a conscience and calls for sanctions against Turkey that the UK's interventionist power is so diminished by Brexit that no one listens and the EU finally goes ahead and does the right thing!

Inevitably, if the EU calls for sanctions, Britain will carry on trading with it. Disgusting! :roll:

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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:39 am

"Turkey", that is to say Erdogan's Turkey, is only on the train, he has a destination (and his intention is at some point to get off that train).

...Zero friends with neighbours can change quickly, it takes a single thought. One hopes, without the escalation of arms that this is possible. Erdogan is a hero, if he wants to be, bigger than Kemal himself; it is not "Turkishness" but Turkey that is great, its people (and its People,) and the diversity of its form. While his intention is to lead a Nation, he leads a State, and there is a big difference, (the Problem) which he must realise.

Cyprus, is, the template, (as a BBF). But, it is a Template which is not his to control. What results in Cyprus' (re)unification, if it is the "perfect" solution, will have as a result reform to the Turkish Republic's Constitution as well.

Europe's interest is in Cyprus, though small, it is, now, the (read: their) fulcrum which balances their security against the forces that seek to rival the significance of its Union (ie Erdogan's ambition, forces like Daesh in the EMed), to the world. A Cyprus divided, is a Turkey divided for the same reasons, and a Europe more divided, within themselves, between Solidarity toward a Universal Principal and, an extreme multi-faceted element (which thrives on the fear they have within themselves). Cypriots recognised as Cypriots is essential, as it is in Turkey, (that Turks are not necessarily "Turks",) more than a Nation, a State with Nations, a state where Individuals defend each other Freely, without distinction or discrimination, and there is Liberty, (as Persons) respect and recognition for all. Likely, Cyprus divided may be the tribute Erdogan is still looking for, a National priority of "Turks" since the Treaty of Lausanne, a dogma, a step toward a larger prize, in a war of Civilizations as the "Protector" of a Caliphate, what is his Religion, he dreams one day will have a center, like the Vatican to the Occidental World, its equal in Istanbul. Cyprus can be a way forward for another kind of Turkey, which includes something more than this perspective, not in a perpetual conflict as though Peace is not normal, alternatively; Erdogan's choice. Cyprus as an ally, Cyprus as an ally in a wider sphere, despite his most deep-seated dreams, must seem very attractive to him sometimes as well. A BBF, may be Turkey's solution soon, mini America, to rival America (a BBF), a force that rivals Europe already, which is in itself a BBF, something to think about, Rights for Individuals and Freedom, Liberty as Persons, self-representation that sustains these distinct identities if not helping them to thrive.

...indeed, while on the train, he may learn enough to take that train himself, further. (And put away the idea of getting somewhere, where he can see the train wrecked).
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Cap » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:35 pm

Şırnak (Bakur) Kürdistan
Decimated by Er***ns terrorist regime.

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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby Maximus » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:23 pm

“The outcome [of the AKP’s constitutional proposal] will be a single-person administration. The outcome will be oppression. The outcome will be a Turkey heading towards a federal structure and then division. The political result will be debates on Turkey’s survival,” Koç said after an executive board meeting of his party on Nov. 17.

They will get whatever they wished for for their neighbors. They will reap the fruits of their harvest to enjoy. Cheers!
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Re: Is it over for Turkey?

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:17 am

..."they" will not divide Cyprus, it is the "Turks", of Cyprus, who will feel betrayed, what is Cypriot is Cypriot; indeed; to divide Cyprus, is to set the template for the division of Turkey.
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