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Postby bg_turk » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:21 pm

Look who is giving Turkey lessons in human rights. Apparently human rights in Greece are only for greeks, and not for barbarian (by definition: anybody coming form outside the hellenic world).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4184246.stm

"Mohammed, a Sudanese refugee, spent three months in the Lesbos detention centre. He told me it was similar to the prison in Sudan from which he had managed to escape. "
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Postby GIz33k0 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:36 pm

go greece! its right that they should reject asylum for most comers from turkey
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Postby bg_turk » Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:06 pm

GIz33k0 wrote:go greece!


I am amazed and shocked at your ability to derive patriotic excitement from the inhumane treatment by Greece of helpless refugees.
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Postby GIz33k0 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:11 pm

me too!?!?
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Postby Melis » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:21 pm

GIz33k0 wrote:go greece! its right that they should reject asylum for most comers from turkey


Out of interest, u r joking aren't u? u dont really get any "patriotic pleasure" out of human right abuse, do u??
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Postby Piratis » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:29 pm

Look who is giving Turkey lessons in human rights.


There is no country with 100% perfect human rights record. The problem with the asylum seekers is one that many European countries have.

Even the professors themselves are not perfect and they make mistakes, but they still give lessons, don't they?

Greece has a hugely better human rights record than Turkey and it would be better for Turkey to take some lessons instead of trying to find excuses as to why they should continue to have one of the worst human rights records in the world.
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Postby Melis » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:27 pm

first u present yourself as an "impartial bystander", then u jump right in the middle of the blame game :)
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Postby Piratis » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:15 pm

Melis, my rights are violated by the Turkish army. I am not just a bystander.

I am not playing any kind of blame games here. I am just saying that Turkey has one of the worst human rights records (which is a fact), and saying "oh, you see you are not perfect either so stop giving us lessons" is a cheap excuse.
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Postby Melis » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:25 pm

Piratis, could u tell me a bit about yourself.... which part of cyprus are u from originally, how old u are... or what ever comes to your mind. Obviously u dont have to, but i would be really interested.
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Postby akiner » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:40 pm

bg_turk,
Bildiğimiz gibi insanhakları ve demokrasi, toplumları yönlendirmek için icât edilmiş kavramlar olup hiçbir ülkede tam anlamıyla yoktur.
Ama tabiki söz konusu Türkiye ise mutlaka var olmalı hatta zevel eksik uygulanmamalıdır.


ps: bunları ingilizce yazsam "sevgili" piratis'in tanımladığı extremist sınıfına atanacağım için bu şekilde kalsınlar kimse çevirmesin lütfen:)
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