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Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby kimon07 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:51 am

Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter
http://www.defencegreece.com/index.php/ ... y-chapter/
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby kimon07 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:55 am

kimon07 wrote:Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter
http://www.defencegreece.com/index.php/ ... y-chapter/

Cyprus supports the opening of Turkey’s EU Energy chapter but only if it signs the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea ...

Nice move! You want energy coop? Sign the Convention first or shut the f .. up!
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:25 pm

Good for Cyprus!
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby Sotos » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:36 pm

Are these chapters relevant only if Turkey eventually joins the EU or Turkey has to gain something just by opening the chapters even if she will never join?
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby Kikapu » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:46 pm

Sotos wrote:Are these chapters relevant only if Turkey eventually joins the EU or Turkey has to gain something just by opening the chapters even if she will never join?


Turkey gains something economically in the short term, even if she never end up joining the EU. By opening chapters, Turkey keeps the foreign investors around just a little bit longer, which was the reason as to why Gül recently was asking the EU to let Turkey have the "Norway system", where Norway has completed the EU chapters but has not yet joined the EU, by failed referendums in Norway. This would buy Turkey few more years of shenanigans at others expense. Basically what Gül was asking for the EU to do was, let Turkey complete all the chapters and then let the Turks in Turkey hold a referendum to see if they would want to join the EU. In another words, Turkey wants to control it's own destiny when it comes to joining the EU. Not bad if she can get it, but not likely to happen.
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:06 pm

Sotos wrote:Are these chapters relevant only if Turkey eventually joins the EU or Turkey has to gain something just by opening the chapters even if she will never join?

Yeah, she gains an additional 2 steps so she may be 4 steps ahead of the world! 8) :lol:
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:26 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Sotos wrote:Are these chapters relevant only if Turkey eventually joins the EU or Turkey has to gain something just by opening the chapters even if she will never join?


Turkey gains something economically in the short term, even if she never end up joining the EU. By opening chapters, Turkey keeps the foreign investors around just a little bit longer, which was the reason as to why Gül recently was asking the EU to let Turkey have the "Norway system", where Norway has completed the EU chapters but has not yet joined the EU, by failed referendums in Norway. This would buy Turkey few more years of shenanigans at others expense. Basically what Gül was asking for the EU to do was, let Turkey complete all the chapters and then let the Turks in Turkey hold a referendum to see if they would want to join the EU. In another words, Turkey wants to control it's own destiny when it comes to joining the EU. Not bad if she can get it, but not likely to happen.


As well as your above reasons; perhaps each time another chapter is opened, Turkey receives yet more EU grants/funds to help it 'meet' the criteria. Someone here posted a thread about how much (a phenomenal amount!) Turkey receives, already, with this faux accession.
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:49 pm

Can just say that the threats we've seen from Turkey over oil and gas extraction in the Med are nothing new.

For decades Turkey has threatened Greece with much the same over an extension to an EEZ in the Aegean. The Big Difference is that Plucky Little Cyprus has again stood up to the Belligerent Piss-Loving War-Monger Turkey, stood up and fought for its rights... unlike the motherfecker Greece which has appeased and capitulated and generally shown as much back-bone as a wet bit of kalamari... :(
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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby CBBB » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:00 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Can just say that the threats we've seen from Turkey over oil and gas extraction in the Med are nothing new.

For decades Turkey has threatened Greece with much the same over an extension to an EEZ in the Aegean. The Big Difference is that Plucky Little Cyprus has again stood up to the Belligerent Piss-Loving War-Monger Turkey, stood up and fought for its rights... unlike the motherfecker Greece which has appeased and capitulated and generally shown as much back-bone as a wet bit of kalamari... :(


Don't know about Greece, but this kid has got a back-bone from a kalamari!

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Re: Cyprus Signals Block On Turkey EU Energy Chapter

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:55 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Can just say that the threats we've seen from Turkey over oil and gas extraction in the Med are nothing new.

For decades Turkey has threatened Greece with much the same over an extension to an EEZ in the Aegean. The Big Difference is that Plucky Little Cyprus has again stood up to the Belligerent Piss-Loving War-Monger Turkey, stood up and fought for its rights... unlike the motherfecker Greece which has appeased and capitulated and generally shown as much back-bone as a wet bit of kalamari... :(


Maybe Greece knew what the 40,000 Turkish troops in Cyprus were to take should Greece have made such (premature) moves. Only an idiot would consider we have gotten this far with the Gas situation without the detailed groundwork between Greece, Cyprus and the EU - oh and don't forget Israel (et al) is now in bed with us too. Better beware hubris.
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