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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:44 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


The other way to transport the Gas from Cyprus to the EU, would be to fill durable bags the size of football fields with as much gas as possible, have about 10-20 of these bags connected to each other like train cars which would be about a mile long, either bouncing along on the sea surface or flying like many kites, and have one tugboat pull it to any seaport in the EU. You will need thousands of these bags and hundreds of tugboats, which the tugboats could be made to run on NG and using gas from one of the bags to supply it's need. This will be easier and cheaper to send the gas to any market it wants it directly without having to pay a toll charge to whichever country the gas will transit through until it gets to its final destination. No need for expensive pipes under the sea or expensive LPG plant in Cyprus. To those countries that are landlocked like Switzerland, then we will get ours from Italy, the closest seaport to us and just pay one toll charge to the Italians, rather than pay several countries if it comes from Turkey for example! :?:

In that case, why not convert a huge tanker into a LNG transport ship and go straight to the customer’s port or nearest hub?



Why not! :?:
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:20 pm

Kikapu wrote:The other way to transport the Gas from Cyprus to the EU, would be to fill durable bags the size of football fields with as much gas as possible, have about 10-20 of these bags connected to each other like train cars which would be about a mile long, either bouncing along on the sea surface or flying like many kites, and have one tugboat pull it to any seaport in the EU. You will need thousands of these bags and hundreds of tugboats, which the tugboats could be made to run on NG and using gas from one of the bags to supply it's need. This will be easier and cheaper to send the gas to any market it wants it directly without having to pay a toll charge to whichever country the gas will transit through until it gets to its final destination. No need for expensive pipes under the sea or expensive LPG plant in Cyprus. To those countries that are landlocked like Switzerland, then we will get ours from Italy, the closest seaport to us and just pay one toll charge to the Italians, rather than pay several countries if it comes from Turkey for example! :?:


Hmm - not exactly very safe.

get real wrote: In that case, why not convert a huge tanker into a LNG transport ship and go straight to the customer’s port or nearest hub?

Not that easy/cheap, indeed Probbaly cheaper to order a new gas ship. These are often run on boil-off.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby kurupetos » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:13 pm

This thread needs toilet paper. :lol:
Greece is our only option. And a good option. :wink:
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby kimon07 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


Splendit idea, Get Real, but I have a better one. We can give it all away to Turkey for free and so we will not have to worry about its transport to anywhere.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby humanist » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:38 pm

hopefully Europe's reliance on newly found EU territorial gas and oil in Cyprus' EEZ may motivate Europe and the US to strongly advocate for the freedom of te Island from the Turks.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:45 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


Splendit idea, Get Real, but I have a better one. We can give it all away to Turkey for free and so we will not have to worry about its transport to anywhere.


Very sad when 'GCs' still think they can do deals with Turkey and it will uphold its side of the agreement.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:12 am

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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Kikapu » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:29 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Kikapu wrote:The other way to transport the Gas from Cyprus to the EU, would be to fill durable bags the size of football fields with as much gas as possible, have about 10-20 of these bags connected to each other like train cars which would be about a mile long, either bouncing along on the sea surface or flying like many kites, and have one tugboat pull it to any seaport in the EU. You will need thousands of these bags and hundreds of tugboats, which the tugboats could be made to run on NG and using gas from one of the bags to supply it's need. This will be easier and cheaper to send the gas to any market it wants it directly without having to pay a toll charge to whichever country the gas will transit through until it gets to its final destination. No need for expensive pipes under the sea or expensive LPG plant in Cyprus. To those countries that are landlocked like Switzerland, then we will get ours from Italy, the closest seaport to us and just pay one toll charge to the Italians, rather than pay several countries if it comes from Turkey for example! :?:


Hmm - not exactly very safe.


Why isn't it safe.?
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


Yeah Right, make them let go of one testicle whilst they grap the other!

Turkey is not to be trusted with anything to do with Cyprus, we want as far away as possible.

I'd rather take my chances with the'Greeks' as you put it than the barbarians. Cheers

I don’t know if you noticed but Greece has just taken a major perpetrator of Greece’s financial collapse (Lucas Papademos), and given him full power!

cyprus29761.html


...if they are dealing with the same crooks, this makes sense in an obtuse kinda way.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Jerry » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:43 pm

Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


Actually a very good idea, if Turkey turns the tap off it won't be the GCs who complain first but the freezing Europeans. I don't think even the arrogant Turks would interfere with a pipeline that was part funded, built and owned by, say Germany.
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