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Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:53 pm

Yes, deffo a good thing for Europe, and to be independent of Unreliable Turkey.

... but this pipeline business, if it is indeed technically feasible, does limit the number of customers for any CY gas.

The advantage of an LPG plant on CY is a much, much bigger potential customer base and so better prices, as well as more jobs on CY.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:15 pm

Keeping as many of the operations in Cyprus as possible is definitively a better option. The SBAs would make good sites. :)

I can foresee delays in undersea pipeline laying because of the potential for the number of antiquity finds - much like the delays in Greece during preparation for the Olympics.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby B25 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:15 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Yes, deffo a good thing for Europe, and to be independent of Unreliable Turkey.

... but this pipeline business, if it is indeed technically feasible, does limit the number of customers for any CY gas.

The advantage of an LPG plant on CY is a much, much bigger potential customer base and so better prices, as well as more jobs on CY.


We'll have both BC. Pipe line can be done, LPG can be done, no sweat. Just need to get the gas first and everything is possible.

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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:19 pm

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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:53 pm

I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby B25 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:06 pm

Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


Yeah Right, make them let go of one testicle whilst they grap the other!

Turkey is not to be trusted with anything to do with Cyprus, we want as far away as possible.

I'd rather take my chances with the'Greeks' as you put it than the barbarians. Cheers
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:43 pm

Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


The other way to transport the Gas from Cyprus to the EU, would be to fill durable bags the size of football fields with as much gas as possible, have about 10-20 of these bags connected to each other like train cars which would be about a mile long, either bouncing along on the sea surface or flying like many kites, and have one tugboat pull it to any seaport in the EU. You will need thousands of these bags and hundreds of tugboats, which the tugboats could be made to run on NG and using gas from one of the bags to supply it's need. This will be easier and cheaper to send the gas to any market it wants it directly without having to pay a toll charge to whichever country the gas will transit through until it gets to its final destination. No need for expensive pipes under the sea or expensive LPG plant in Cyprus. To those countries that are landlocked like Switzerland, then we will get ours from Italy, the closest seaport to us and just pay one toll charge to the Italians, rather than pay several countries if it comes from Turkey for example! :?:
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


The other way to transport the Gas from Cyprus to the EU, would be to fill durable bags the size of football fields with as much gas as possible, have about 10-20 of these bags connected to each other like train cars which would be about a mile long, either bouncing along on the sea surface or flying like many kites, and have one tugboat pull it to any seaport in the EU. You will need thousands of these bags and hundreds of tugboats, which the tugboats could be made to run on NG and using gas from one of the bags to supply it's need. This will be easier and cheaper to send the gas to any market it wants it directly without having to pay a toll charge to whichever country the gas will transit through until it gets to its final destination. No need for expensive pipes under the sea or expensive LPG plant in Cyprus. To those countries that are landlocked like Switzerland, then we will get ours from Italy, the closest seaport to us and just pay one toll charge to the Italians, rather than pay several countries if it comes from Turkey for example! :?:

In that case, why not convert a huge tanker into a LNG transport ship and go straight to the customer’s port or nearest hub?
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Re: Cyprus – Finally, energy security for the EU.

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:30 pm

B25 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I don’t know if we can trust Greeks to transport our natural resources into Europe!

I think giving that job to Turkey as part of a lucrative deal, in return for the occupied territory makes more sense.


Yeah Right, make them let go of one testicle whilst they grap the other!

Turkey is not to be trusted with anything to do with Cyprus, we want as far away as possible.

I'd rather take my chances with the'Greeks' as you put it than the barbarians. Cheers

I don’t know if you noticed but Greece has just taken a major perpetrator of Greece’s financial collapse (Lucas Papademos), and given him full power!

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