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Postby Hermes » Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:31 pm

kimon07 wrote:‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU


The really pathetic thing about Gul's remarks is that he repeated them with such pride. He clearly thinks this was an impressive thing to say to the EU leadership. In reality they must've been appalled by his impudence and stupidity. It explains the sheer gulf in credibility between the EU and Turkey and explains why the EU's doors remain firmly shut in Turkey's face.
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:17 pm

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kimon07 wrote:‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU


The really pathetic thing about Gul's remarks is that he repeated them with such pride. He clearly thinks this was an impressive thing to say to the EU leadership. In reality they must've been appalled by his impudence and stupidity. It explains the sheer gulf in credibility between the EU and Turkey and explains why the EU's doors remain firmly shut in Turkey's face.


I can imagine the level of disdain they must have felt just from hearing him speak. Its really bad, bad, sad, sad.
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:36 pm

Maximus wrote:
Hermes wrote:
kimon07 wrote:‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU


The really pathetic thing about Gul's remarks is that he repeated them with such pride. He clearly thinks this was an impressive thing to say to the EU leadership. In reality they must've been appalled by his impudence and stupidity. It explains the sheer gulf in credibility between the EU and Turkey and explains why the EU's doors remain firmly shut in Turkey's face.


I can imagine the level of disdain they must have felt just from hearing him speak. Its really bad, bad, sad, sad.


Yes but there is something that is even badder and sadder ... the zero practical response from the EU!!!!

Jees! ... How on Earth can the Unaccountable Euro Commission, particularly Barrosso, Fule and Ashton in association with the GB Foreign Office keep putting up with this rubbish ??? To keep writing the cheques drawn on Euro Taxpayer's money... :x :x :x :x :x :x
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby B25 » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:39 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Hermes wrote:
kimon07 wrote:‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU


The really pathetic thing about Gul's remarks is that he repeated them with such pride. He clearly thinks this was an impressive thing to say to the EU leadership. In reality they must've been appalled by his impudence and stupidity. It explains the sheer gulf in credibility between the EU and Turkey and explains why the EU's doors remain firmly shut in Turkey's face.


I can imagine the level of disdain they must have felt just from hearing him speak. Its really bad, bad, sad, sad.


Yes but there is something that is even badder and sadder ... the zero practical response from the EU!!!!

Jees! ... How on Earth can the Unaccountable Euro Commission, particularly Barrosso, Fule and Ashton in association with the GB Foreign Office keep putting up with this rubbish ??? To keep writing the cheques drawn on Euro Taxpayer's money... :x :x :x :x :x :x


I blame the RoC themselves for not making a hugh song and dance about all this BS Turkeys keeps n spouting. Come on RoC, grow some balls and speak up will ya!
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:19 pm

B25 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Hermes wrote:
kimon07 wrote:‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU


The really pathetic thing about Gul's remarks is that he repeated them with such pride. He clearly thinks this was an impressive thing to say to the EU leadership. In reality they must've been appalled by his impudence and stupidity. It explains the sheer gulf in credibility between the EU and Turkey and explains why the EU's doors remain firmly shut in Turkey's face.


I can imagine the level of disdain they must have felt just from hearing him speak. Its really bad, bad, sad, sad.


Yes but there is something that is even badder and sadder ... the zero practical response from the EU!!!!

Jees! ... How on Earth can the Unaccountable Euro Commission, particularly Barrosso, Fule and Ashton in association with the GB Foreign Office keep putting up with this rubbish ??? To keep writing the cheques drawn on Euro Taxpayer's money... :x :x :x :x :x :x


I blame the RoC themselves for not making a hugh song and dance about all this BS Turkeys keeps n spouting. Come on RoC, grow some balls and speak up will ya!


Yes, but to its credit CY has prob done all it can in maxing out the blocks on various Accession Chapters which is a pretty decent "song and dance". Do not think it can block the Harmonisation cheques made out to Turkey by the Commission.
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:42 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Hermes wrote:
kimon07 wrote:‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU


The really pathetic thing about Gul's remarks is that he repeated them with such pride. He clearly thinks this was an impressive thing to say to the EU leadership. In reality they must've been appalled by his impudence and stupidity. It explains the sheer gulf in credibility between the EU and Turkey and explains why the EU's doors remain firmly shut in Turkey's face.


I can imagine the level of disdain they must have felt just from hearing him speak. Its really bad, bad, sad, sad.


Yes but there is something that is even badder and sadder ... the zero practical response from the EU!!!!

Jees! ... How on Earth can the Unaccountable Euro Commission, particularly Barrosso, Fule and Ashton in association with the GB Foreign Office keep putting up with this rubbish ??? To keep writing the cheques drawn on Euro Taxpayer's money... :x :x :x :x :x :x


True,

Why else would the EU be stringing the turks along?
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby Kikapu » Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:14 am

I think in order for Turkey to ever become an EU member in the "miserable union" is for her to become a "half country" herself, with the Kurds and the Armenians taking the eastern half of Turkey and the remaining western part for the Turks. :idea:

Maybe Gül was speaking of a "half country" for Turkey after having had a premonition of the future. :wink:
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:00 am

...'half-country' implies a recognition that Cyprus exists, unless he has dreams that the trunc land will become the sovereign representative of the island as a whole.

...patience, patience, erdo and company do more than any external 'power' to discredit Turkey.
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby kimon07 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:40 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...'half-country' implies a recognition that Cyprus exists, unless he has dreams that the trunc land will become the sovereign representative of the island as a whole.

...patience, patience, erdo and company do more than any external 'power' to discredit Turkey.


You can say that again. We must encourage them as much as we can to carry on and on like that. Remember what happened when CY applied for EU accession?? Turkey was threatening with war, annexation of the North etc. Result? She was isolated, she angered everybody, CY was admitted. PERIOD. I can not wait to see what will happen when CY takes the presidency. In fact, I am watching with sadistic pleasure the escalation of the reactions of Turkey as we get closer.... and closer.....and closer to our Presidency. Oh God, I can't wait for the ...climax.
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Re: ‘Half-country to lead miserable union,’ Gül tells EU

Postby Hermes » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:49 am

Gul remarks degrading for Turkey

THE remarks made by Turkish President Abdullah Gul for a ''miserable'' European Union are not degrading Europe but are degrading his own country, Deputy Minister to the President for European Affairs Andreas Mavroyiannis said on Thursday.

''Although the remarks by Turkey's President Mr Gul that half-country will become the President of a miserable Union are shown as degrading Europe, in fact they are degrading Mr Gul himself and his country'', Mavroyiannis said, invited to comment on the statement made by Gul while speaking to journalists in London.

Noting that this ''half country'', the Republic of Cyprus, to which Gul is referring to, is half because Turkey invaded and occupied 37 of the island's territory and keeps the island-state divided, Mavroyiannis said instead of using the term ''half,'' Gul could act towards ending the division of Cyprus.

He added that before describing Europe as miserable, the Turkish President should think that his country looks forward to joining the European Union, wondering whether Gul wants ''his country to participate in this misery.''

The Deputy Minister also noted that Gul's remarks ''are not degrading Europe but degrade his own country and its desire to project a European face.''

''Because Europe, despite the problems and difficulties, remains and becomes even more a space worth living in, offering quality of life to the people, a space of peace and law where people try to create conditions of prosperity not only for themselves but for the whole world,'' he said.

''If this is the definition of misery for Mr Gul, I regret to say we do not share the same values,'' Mavroyiannis concluded.


http://famagusta-gazette.com/mavroyiann ... 595-69.htm
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