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Re: Germany and the Greek Crisis

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:53 pm

Hermes wrote:Just to add to my previous post. There are other studies that also indicate the same pattern, i.e. that on average the Greeks work harder than their European counterparts. None of these studies were made by Greeks so any allegations of twisting the facts, is simply wrong. It is not how hard one works but rather what one does that results in productivity. Most Greeks work 2 to 3 jobs. Salaries are low, taxes are high, and most of the problem is due to poor productivity and an inefficient public sector.


They may work longer but not necessarily harder - how much of the evidence was based on for example the workings of an inefficient public sector and why is that Greek workers are relatively unproductive in terms of what they do or possibly how they do it? ?
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Re: Germany and the Greek Crisis

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:03 pm

Greece has still been mainly agricultural. Agriculture is as necessary ( more so IMHO) as anything else, cars, TV etc. It's actually because of the surplus of German produced goods that Greece is now being milked by other means.

Wait till the Germans start starving ...
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Re: Germany and the Greek Crisis

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:49 pm

joe wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Think of the benefits my Hellenic friends…

Thoroughbred Aryans will start mating with your mongrel women and at long last you’ll have quality genes injected into your watery bloodline!

Sieg heil! 8)


Does this mean these Greeks are going to claim that the Aryans are Greek 3000 years into the future? :lol:


It means you two have a serious psychological problem. :wink:

But I tell you, how fortunate for your poor wife that you found this forum. She gets some alone time from the crazy nut and you get on your soap box for us all to laugh at ur insanity. :wink:


I would just like to point out that the true and original Hellenes (the Achaeans, Ionians, Dorians and Aeolians, who claimed descent from the mythical King Hellene ) were quite probbaly an "Aryan" (I prefer the term Indo European) people who invaded what later became Greece in waves from about 2000 BC or so - .
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Re: Germany and the Greek Crisis

Postby humanist » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:10 pm

It's no longer the greek Crisis it has become an EU in crisis w/ Greece having a huge debt lol
Portugal is gone and so has Italy.
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Re: Germany and the Greek Crisis

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:52 pm

Hermes wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The problem with Greece is its people! If you transplant Greeks into Australia and Australians to Greece, then I guarantee you that Greece will go from strength to strength while Australia collapses into a heap!


That is a pathetic answer, Paphitis. Even by your lamentable standards of late. Greeks abroad do very well. Are they not Greeks then? Aren't Greek Americans successful? Greek Australians? Greeks in London? It's just sheer stupidity to blame the "Greek people" as if Greece's problems are the result of a genetic deficiency.

Wherever Greeks go they are successful, productive and creative. Also, are the Greeks to blame because Italy, Spain, the UK, Ireland and Portugal are all in debt and their economies struggling? Or are the Spanish, British, Italian and Portuguese people all equally deficient in your eyes? If the Australian economy goes tits up are we supposed to conclude that the Australians are a bunch of useless sheep-shaggers, convicts and runaways? What kind of nonsense is this?

The Greek state and economy has many issues and problems that stifle the Greek people and don't encourage them. Problems that also exist in other countries. To argue that the failings in the Greek and European economies are the result of a genetic flaw is just crass, stupid and vindictive. :roll:


There is a big difference between older generation Greeks that migrated to other countries in the 50s and 60s Hermes. There was a work ethic amongst them, and they had to learn to establish themselves in Foreign Lands and within the workforce or live a sad existance.

This work ethic does not exist in Greece today!

No industry you can write home about, just tourism and agriculture!

They found these industries in the countries they migrated to and had to work in factories to earn their living.
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Re: Germany and the Greek Crisis

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:56 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Greece has still been mainly agricultural. Agriculture is as necessary ( more so IMHO) as anything else, cars, TV etc. It's actually because of the surplus of German produced goods that Greece is now being milked by other means.

Wait till the Germans start starving ...


If a country like Getmany starts starving then you can bet your bottom Stirling that you too will be starving in the UK, as well as every other industrialized nation from the US down to Japan. Where would that leave Greece?

Germany also has agriculture. In actual fact it has a food surplus which it exports! But I don't see many olive groves in Athens!
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