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UN should set a date to leave

Postby hotspurs235 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:17 pm

The UN should set a date to leave.

This would ensure the two parties actually have meaningful talks and not just an hour here and there.
Absolutely pointless the UN being here anyway.
They have no powers at all.
The Buffer Zone is way too big.
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:29 pm

They should be replaced by some 40,000 EU troops.
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:54 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:They should be replaced by some 40,000 EU troops.


I would like some French troops there. They fight best and can be trusted not to run away.
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby CBBB » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:39 pm

As from Sunday Cyprus is in charge of EU security and defence issues, so we can just send 40,000 EU troops here!

First test for EU presidency imminent

By Stefanos Evripidou
Published on December 30, 2011

CYPRUS WILL be put to the test early when it takes over the handling of EU security and defence issues on January 1, a whole six months before its official EU Presidency begins.

Cyprus will take over the six-month rotating EU Presidency from Denmark on July 1. However, due to the fact Denmark has an opt-out from issues related to the EU’s Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), Cyprus will assume responsibility for this area six months earlier than planned.

more at http://www.cyprus-mail.com/denmark/firs ... t/20111230
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:34 pm

Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:They should be replaced by some 40,000 EU troops.


I would like some French troops there. They fight best and can be trusted not to run away.

A superpower like France doesn’t need to deploy troops anywhere because for her a 3rd world adversary like Turkey is a one bomb affair!

All they would have to do is push a little red button in one of their submerged submarines and about 5 minutes later Istanbul turns into glass and the Turkish government surrenders unconditionally...
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:57 pm

CBBB wrote:As from Sunday Cyprus is in charge of EU security and defence issues, so we can just send 40,000 EU troops here!

First test for EU presidency imminent

By Stefanos Evripidou
Published on December 30, 2011

CYPRUS WILL be put to the test early when it takes over the handling of EU security and defence issues on January 1, a whole six months before its official EU Presidency begins.

Cyprus will take over the six-month rotating EU Presidency from Denmark on July 1. However, due to the fact Denmark has an opt-out from issues related to the EU’s Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), Cyprus will assume responsibility for this area six months earlier than planned.

more at http://www.cyprus-mail.com/denmark/firs ... t/20111230


A certain propaganda site for the Turkish Occupation has posted the following load of drivel on the matter of the lack of reliability its allies have come to expect of Turkiye...

Motherland Turkey has reacted to the possibility that South Cyprus may be taking over the European Army. It has started diplomatic initiatives within NATO and the EU, if a solution isn’t found then it will remove its forces from Bosnia or reduce the numbers of its forces to a bare minimum.

Motherland Turkey has strongly reacted to the possibility that South Cyprus may take over the commandership of the EU forces that are serving in Bosnia.

In reaction to this Turkey has started a diplomatic initiative within NATO and the EU to prevent such a thing from happening.

If a solution isn’t found to the problem then it will remove its forces from Bosnia or reduce the numbers of its forces to a bare minimum.

The Greek Cypriot administration is preparing to take over the EU term presidency in July 2012, and it is highly likely that the commandership of the EU Peace Keeping and EU Police Forces will be handed over to the Greek Cypriot administration 6 months before that date.
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby AWE » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:26 am

CBBB wrote:As from Sunday Cyprus is in charge of EU security and defence issues, so we can just send 40,000 EU troops here!

First test for EU presidency imminent

By Stefanos Evripidou
Published on December 30, 2011

CYPRUS WILL be put to the test early when it takes over the handling of EU security and defence issues on January 1, a whole six months before its official EU Presidency begins.

Cyprus will take over the six-month rotating EU Presidency from Denmark on July 1. However, due to the fact Denmark has an opt-out from issues related to the EU’s Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), Cyprus will assume responsibility for this area six months earlier than planned.

more at http://www.cyprus-mail.com/denmark/firs ... t/20111230


don't you mean:

"From 1 January 2007, the EU Operations Centre began work in Brussels. It can command a limited size force of about 2000 troops (e.g. a battlegroup)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sec ... nce_Policy

instead of the 40k EU troops.
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby CBBB » Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:50 am

AWE wrote:
CBBB wrote:As from Sunday Cyprus is in charge of EU security and defence issues, so we can just send 40,000 EU troops here!

First test for EU presidency imminent

By Stefanos Evripidou
Published on December 30, 2011

CYPRUS WILL be put to the test early when it takes over the handling of EU security and defence issues on January 1, a whole six months before its official EU Presidency begins.

Cyprus will take over the six-month rotating EU Presidency from Denmark on July 1. However, due to the fact Denmark has an opt-out from issues related to the EU’s Common Security and Defence Policy (CSDP), Cyprus will assume responsibility for this area six months earlier than planned.

more at http://www.cyprus-mail.com/denmark/firs ... t/20111230


don't you mean:

"From 1 January 2007, the EU Operations Centre began work in Brussels. It can command a limited size force of about 2000 troops (e.g. a battlegroup)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sec ... nce_Policy

instead of the 40k EU troops.


Not a problem, I'd bet on 2,000 Professional European troops against 40,000 illiterate Anatolian peasant conscripts any day!
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby Bananiot » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:42 am

Can you substitute Israel for France GR? You know, the one that committed crimes against humanity (committed as apposed to commits).
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Re: UN should set a date to leave

Postby AWE » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:16 pm

CBBB wrote:Not a problem, I'd bet on 2,000 Professional European troops against 40,000 illiterate Anatolian peasant conscripts any day!


Ah, yes the EU will go to war for the RoC, and it was in '74 that the USA will stop the RoT, or Russia will win it for us, or the UN, Israel, France, Syria and the Palestinians... ...I am sorry to say no one will go to war for the RoC, not even Greece, nor do most countries care any more - where are the economic sanctions and embargoes etc on Turkey? The RoC gets platitudes but nothing concrete.

But as long as the RoC electorate believe the line that 'someone else will fix the Cyprob and it will be a perfect solution' then there is no incentive, in the RoC, to drive the process forward, thus allowing the politicians to defraud the electorate by giving themselves an easy living, the President of the RoC earns more than the PM of Spain. :?

The Cypriots need to stop waiting for others to fix their problem and fix it themselves!


Sorry but I feel very pessimistic about there ever being a solution to the Cyprob that isn't the status quo or separation as the TC population leaves the north.
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