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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:01 am

miltiades wrote:I give up !!! :lol: :lol:


No .... don't do that Milti! Every post Paphitis makes is a joke and shows just how little he knows about the World today. He is still living in the past, the good-old Cold War days when the in thing was to see Russians as little more than animals and a threat to the American dream. He changes his approach so often it is sometimes hard to keep up.

Yes, you are absolutely right, of course the US coalition has abandoned the 'moderate' terrorists anyone with half a brain could work that out. The US coalition are committed to fighting Daesh in Iraq, although once again Paphitis does no see it that way. In Syria the US coalition is on its way out. As we have explained to him many times, Putin is in the driving seat of diplomacy in the region and it will be Putin that will be heralded as the Peace Maker in Chief. The US's involvement will be more of a courtesy to help them save face than them actually having a say in events.

As for air dropping weapons to recognised and declared terrorists? That would be contrary to International Law and even more so if/when the UN ratifies the ceasefire. What he never seems to appreciate is that for his coalition to even be in Syria is illegal and every bomb they drop, without Assad's prior agreement is a war crime. He says you won't see many articles on illegal weapon supplies..... of course you won't in the MSM reports he reads .... but there is plenty about it in the Independent Media. Ignorance or disregard for the Law is no defence.

As the people of Aleppo have escaped from their enforced incarceration, more and more stories are coming out regarding what crimes these 'moderate' terrorists have been carrying out. But Paphitis ignores all that! He is not aware of the hundreds of both civilians and SAA captives his 'moderate rebels' executed when they left Eastern Aleppo and that included women and children. The Syrians do not blame Assad or Putin, they blame the terrorists, ALL of them including FSA and the 'moderates', that the US coalition provided with the means to enforce misery on them. It is now being well documented.

Vast amounts of US supplied weapons have been found in Aleppo warehouses, along with mountains of food and medicine ..... but Paphitis still bangs on, in the face of all the evidence, about Assad and Putin being war criminals. He never provides and proof and certainly never replies to any direct question. The people of Aleppo praise Assad and Putin for all the aid and support, for the simple fact that the only thing the coalition supplied was weapons to be used against them. As Paphitis' is so fond of saying ..........the chickens are coming home to roost!"

Syria-Gate: NATO Weaponry and Personnel in East Aleppo - Interview with Syrian MP

Huge stockpiles of weaponry and ammunition, many with NATO markings, were discovered in East Aleppo when the Al-Nusra militants, a local branch of Al Qaida, were pushed out of the city by Syrian forces.

The previous reports that NATO personnel were captured are now retracted, as they were allowed to leave with the militants on the buses provided according to the agreement, to spare NATO the embarrassment. FWM interviews the Syrian MP Fares Shehabi, an Aleppo resident himself. He calls the discoveries “SyriaGate”.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-gate-nato-weaponry-and-personnel-in-east-aleppo/5565358


Had the US got its way in Syria they would without doubt have proceeded with phoney accusations against both Assad and Russia. But they lost, so the victors will now hopefully bring the Coalition governments to trail for their complicity in numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity and make them pay for it .... big time! :x
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:08 am

No he is absolutely right to give up!

You should give up too, because I will always counter your false propaganda and either of you know exactly what is at stake and how far the Coalition is prepared to go.

SYRIA IS DESTROYED. It is fragmented and a pile of rubble. You have not won anything. but Hezbollah is being engaged along with Russia into a War it will never be able to extract itself from.

Coalition is just claiming its piece of the pie now.

And Hezbollah and Iran are next!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:15 am

I give up telling him the obvious, in that the coalition has abandoned the rebels, he responds by providing links to the ....contrary :lol:
The links do not support his assertion that the coalition still supports the rebels.

The West made a catastrophic error of judgement in getting involved in Syria, I said so way back in October of 2012.
Had the west not stuck its nose in the internal conflict of Syria the war would have ended long ago and would have spared the lives of hundreds of thousands, not to mention millions of refugees.

Let us hope that this is the beginning of the end of this horrid conflict.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:18 am

The obvious is that this is a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

It also is a war involving hezbollah and Israel.

This is not a war that will be abandoned by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE or Jordan let alone the USA.

You will be talking about this war in years to come, but by that time, Syria will be in 5 pieces.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:30 am

Paphitis wrote:The obvious is that this is a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

It also is a war involving hezbollah and Israel.

This is not a war that will be abandoned by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE or Jordan let alone the USA.

You will be talking about this war in years to come, but by that time, Syria will be in 5 pieces.

Like all of your previous ...prophesies, all disastrously wrong, this " this is a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran." will also be proven to be wrong.
Lets face it, YOUR coalition, without YOUR permission, has given up on the rebels. Putin and Trump will form an alliance and defeat the savages in a few months time.Sadad has survived by the way.

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:32 am

Paphitis wrote:No he is absolutely right to give up!

You should give up too, because I will always counter your false propaganda and either of you know exactly what is at stake and how far the Coalition is prepared to go.

SYRIA IS DESTROYED. It is fragmented and a pile of rubble. You have not won anything. but Hezbollah is being engaged along with Russia into a War it will never be able to extract itself from.

Coalition is just claiming its piece of the pie now.

And Hezbollah and Iran are next!


More delusions! :lol: :lol: :lol: As you can see Paphitis mirrors the McCains and the NeoCons in the US and the Western Imperialist Elite. The World is changing ..... get used to it, you are no longer 'numero uno'! :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:33 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The obvious is that this is a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

It also is a war involving hezbollah and Israel.

This is not a war that will be abandoned by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE or Jordan let alone the USA.

You will be talking about this war in years to come, but by that time, Syria will be in 5 pieces.

Like all of your previous ...prophesies, all disastrously wrong, this " this is a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran." will also be proven to be wrong.
Lets face it, YOUR coalition, without YOUR permission, has given up on the rebels. Putin and Trump will form an alliance and defeat the savages in a few months time.Sadad has survived by the way.

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No, my prophecies are yet to be proven wrong and we are a very long way off from them being proven wrong as well.

On the contrary, I am the only one left standing as all my prophecies are still alive and kicking while yours are dead in the water and were dead in the water over a year ago.

There is no peace in Syria without a Comprehensive peace settlement. And you know very well what that means.

In addition, they are not prophecies. This is a war which will manifest itself in many different ways and will hit a street near you as well.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:50 am

Once again you change tack ....... now we switch to Saudi, Iran, Hezbollah and Israel ..... :roll:
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The obvious is that this is a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran.


It is no more a war between Saudi and Iran, than it is a war between the US and Russia. It is a war in Syria and All are involved ......... each with a different reason and their own agenda. But ONLY Syria, Russia, Hezbollah and Iran are doing so legally!

It also is a war involving hezbollah and Israel.


Hezbollah is a defence force created to resist Israeli aggression ...... it is not a war! Hezbollah's involvement is legal ..... Israels incursions are not! :roll:

This is not a war that will be abandoned by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE or Jordan let alone the USA.


The war in Syria is in the process of winding down. Will it have an end like VE or VJ Day? ..... no! It will remain a global terrorism conflict, thanks to the arrogance driving US hegemony and will affect Australia as well as Syria and just as much, every other country on the Planet. :x

You will be talking about this war in years to come, but by that time, Syria will be in 5 pieces.


That may be what is on your wish list ...... but nobody is listening to YOU! Thank goodness. :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:02 am

Yeh it is. there is a war and it isn't going to end in Syria or Yemen. There is no way for it to end without a Comprehensive Settlement.

if you think everything is ok, then fine, we will proceed with our safe zones and defacto partition which Pootin seems to agree with. Syria will never be the same again.

As for hezbollah, we have big issues with them as a terrorist group and their presence won't be tolerated. as soon as they are deemed a threat to israel, then they will be attacked which means another war.

The war in Syria is a long way of winding down. Hezbollah and the regime can't help themselves. They have already violated the ceasefire by bombing rebel groups in hama and in Damascus.

Plus, without the Coalition, there is no Peace Deal. We have free reign and there is nothing anyone can do about it. We have our clients in Syria that need our protection.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:00 pm

:lol: :mrgreen: Paphitis:

Yeh it is. there is a war and it isn't going to end in Syria or Yemen. There is no way for it to end without a Comprehensive Settlement.


Oh, so now we are switching to include Yemen .... another illegal war! The first steps in the implementation of a Comprehensive Settlement is being implemented now and YOU are not part of the negotiating team!
if you think everything is ok, then fine, we will proceed with our safe zones and defacto partition which Pootin seems to agree with. Syria will never be the same again.


YOU have no safe zones! YOU have no say in the partition of Syria. As I understand that aspect, the ‘troika’ is talking ......... autonomous areas but still within the Syrian State and with one president.

As for hezbollah, we have big issues with them as a terrorist group and their presence won't be tolerated. as soon as they are deemed a threat to israel, then they will be attacked which means another war.


Hezbollah are not terrorists, only in the eyes of the US, its allies and of course, Israel. Who are you to ‘tolerate’ anything ....... YOU are not involved. They are no threat to Israel, unless Israel crosses the line in the sand. Maybe, later Syria and Lebanon will tackle the illegal occupation of parts of their territory by Israel. That will start in the UN and will be protracted, that’s for sure, if Palestine is taken as an example.

The war in Syria is a long way of winding down. Hezbollah and the regime can't help themselves. They have already violated the ceasefire by bombing rebel groups in hama and in Damascus.


I doubt it will last as a ‘war’ for very long, now the US coalition have stopped supporting terrorists as their patsies to overthrow a legitimate government and its President. Then we will see the decisions of The Syrian War Crimes Commission . The terrorists will however remain as a threat to Syria like it will to ALL countries.

Where did the information come from about these attacks? The White Helmets and the SOHR! :lol: :lol:

Over and over again they have been identified as Al-Nusra supporters .... it is the ONLY way they could possibly operate. The Syrians have never heard of them and those that have regard them as terrorists. According to these sources, the al-Quds hospital in Eastern Aleppo has been 'destroyed' 20 times in the last 12 months and the last surgeon has been killed several times. So I would take that story with a pinch of salt. :roll:
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