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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:58 am

This opinion, backed by historic evidence, by Robert Parry, will apply just as much to events in North Korea as it does now to events regarding Syria. It is the same MO repeated every time to justify yet another ‘humanitarian’ war.

Echoes of Iraq-WMD Fraud in Syria - By Robert Parry

Just as the West ignored signs in 2002-03 that anti-government Iraqis were fabricating WMD claims, evidence is being brushed aside that Syrian jihadists have ginned up chemical attacks.

The New York Times and other Western media have learned few lessons from the Iraq War, including how the combination of a demonized foreign leader and well-funded “activists” committed to flooding the process with fake data can lead to dangerously false conclusions that perpetuate war.

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But the journalistic (and intelligence) point should have been that the West was fooled in Iraq by self-interested “activists” flooding the Times, the CIA and the world with fake information — so many bogus walk-ins that they overwhelmed whatever half-hearted process there was to weed out lies from truth. The Syrian “opposition” appears to have adopted a similar strategy in Syria with similar success.

Given the history, scepticism should be the rule in Syria, not credulity.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47786.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:35 am

...news, Syria, (and Iraq) to face Turkish weapons.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/l ... 43145.html

...in an agreement with Russia and Iran, they will defend what is left of the FSA in a ceasefire agreed to last week in Astana, the Kazakh capital, for six months.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:04 am

This guy is a good source for what is happening on the ground in Syria and has been surprisingly accurate since 2012. The full article has a map of the disposition of forces, in some detail .........

Syria Summary - Eliminating ISIS' Remains

Yesterday (17/9/17) a first clash of forces occurred. Syrian government and Russian special forces (red) have crossed the Euphrates at Deir Ezzor to reconnaissance the area for their next large operation. A crossing in force towards the north of Euphrates and east of Deir Ezzor is expected during the next few days. The Russian military had informed the U.S. of its area of operation. Despite that, formerly ISIS aligned tribal forces, now paid by the U.S. under the label SDF, tried to extend their areas north of Deir Ezzor (blue). A "warning shot" was delivered to them in form of a small air attack. Several "SDF" were wounded, the U.S. special forces accompanying and commanding them were not harmed.

The Russia military is asking who, really, those forces are:

Over the past few days, on the eastern bank of the Euphrates, Russian control and reconnaissance facilities have not identified a single combat of Islamic State terrorists with armed representatives of any ‘third force.’ Therefore, only representatives of the international coalition can answer the question as to how ‘opposition members’ or ‘military advisers of the international coalition’ managed to get to the IS-held areas in the eastern part of Deir ez-Zor without striking a blow.”

Our last summary noted that these new U.S. proxies Brett McGurk had hired, the 'third force' in the Russian statement, allegedly progressed some 30 kilometers into ISIS country without firing a shot. These forces are evidently ISIS fighters now under a new banner and with U.S. special forces directing them.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/09/syria-summary-the-plan-to-eliminate-isis-remains.html
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:49 pm

The latest sitrep from Syria by Moon of Alabama.

Syria - Russia Accusing U.S. Of Attacks, Abduction Attempts, Team-play With Al-Qaeda


The situation in Syria is reaching another critical point. There is an increased possibility of a large scale clash between U.S. and Russian forces. We had warned of such a clash over control of the rich fields east of Deir Ezzor. At least three incidents over the last days point to more significant escalations.

• On the 17th the U.S. accused Russia of a light air attack on its proxy forces north of Deir Ezzor. Russia denied that it had attacked those forces.

• On the 18th and 19th large contingents of Russian and Syrian troops crossed the Euphrates at Deir Ezzor in east-Syria. The U.S. Kurdish/Arab proxy force in the area actively tried to hinder that movement.

• In parallel a large al-Qaeda attack was launched in west-Syria. The Russian forces accuse U.S. intelligence services of having initiated that campaign. (The Syrian-Russian forces defeated the attack.)

• Today the Russian military accused the U.S. Kurdish proxies near Deir Ezzor of firing artillery on its forces. It threatened massive retaliation.
The most dramatic incident was the al-Qaeda attack in Idleb.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/09/syria-russia-accuses-us-of-attacks-direct-coordination-with-al-qaeda.html#more
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:28 pm

This could lead to a much larger conflict between US and Russian ground forces.

Russian Special Forces Repel a US-planned Attack in Syria, Denounce the USA and Issue a Stark Warning - By The Saker

Something rather unprecedented just happened in Syria: US backed “good terrorist” forces attempted a surprise attack against Syrian government forces stationed to the north and northeast of the city of Hama. What makes this attack unique is that it took place inside a so-called “de-escalation zone” and that it appears that one of the key goals of the attack was to encircle in a pincer-movement and subsequently capture a platoon of Russian military police officers deployed to monitor and enforce the special status of this zone.

The Russian military police forces, composed mainly of soldiers from the Caucasus region, fought against a much larger enemy force and had to call for assistance. For the first time, at least officially, Russian special operations forces were deployed to rescue and extract their comrades. At the same time, the Russians sent in a number of close air support aircraft who reportedly killed several hundred “good” terrorists and beat back the attack (Russian sources speak of the destruction of 850 fighters, 11 tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, 46 armed pickup trucks, five mortars, 20 freighter trucks and 38 ammo supply points; you can see photos of the destroyed personnel and equipment here). What also makes this event unique is the official reaction of the Russians to this event.

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:48 pm

This happened a couple of days ago ago but somehow the MSM sort of missed it :roll: .... or thought it of no significance! Now wait for some US coalition troops to die and the MSM will be all over it accusing Assad and Russia of deliberately killing coalition forces .......... of course they won’t ask the question ‘What were they doing there in the first place?’ :x

Syria - U.S. CentCom Declares War On Russia - Moon Of Alabama

Yesterday (actually the 25th Sept) three high ranking Russian officers were killed in an "ISIS attack" in eastern-Syrian. It is likely that they were killed by U.S. special forces or insurgents under U.S. special forces control. The incident will be understood as a declaration of war.

The U.S. Central Command in the Middle East wants the oil fields in east-Syria under control of its proxy forces to set up and control a U.S. aligned Kurdish mini-state in the area. The Syrian government, allied with Russia, needs the revenues of the oil fields to rebuild the country.

Last week the Russians issued sharply worded statements against U.S. coordination with al-Qaeda terrorists in Idleb province and warned of further escalation.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47899.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:36 am

Once again .........

It appears to be almost inevitable that there will be a serious engagement between US and Russian forces eventually. No doubt an attack that kills US personnel and/or their allies will be seen as an act of aggression by Syria/Russia ...... but of course the US and their proxies have no right to be in Syria anyway but that will be ignored completely in the MSM. The other way round, and it will be just another ‘mistake’ by the US coalition. But I don’t think, as does Whitney, that the Russians are that stupid that they will except feeble excuses !

Washington’s Iron Curtain on the Euphrates - By Mike Whitney

"For more than six years, Syrians have made great sacrifices to defend their country in the face of a terrorist war of unprecedented brutality…. The Syrian people have stood their ground, against all odds, because they knew that this was a war that sought to eliminate their country, and with it, their own existence. They are an example to follow by any people who might face, now or in the future, similar attempts to break their will and deny them their freedom and sovereignty." — Walid Al-Moualem, Syria’s Deputy Prime Minister, Statement at the UN General Assembly.

Washington has delayed its project to throw up an iron curtain along the eastern banks of the Euphrates River in order to deploy its Kurdish shock troops deep into Deir Ezzor province. The Syrian Defense Forces or SDF have been blitzing southward for nearly a week to head off the steady advance of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and their elite Tiger Forces. The SAA’s stunning triumph in Deir Ezzor has knocked Washington for a loop triggering all manner of erratic behaviour including rocket and mortar attacks on SAA troop positions, a US-coordinated stealth attack in Idlib province, and numerous other provocations meant to divert attention from the main strategic objective, the lucrative Euphrates Valley oil fields.

At present, the SDF is in the best position to liberate the oil fields from ISIS’s control. One must ask, however, why the SDF has suddenly diverted its attention from the siege of Raqqa and hastily send its troops south to the oil fields if their intention was not to claim ownership of those fields and to prevent the regime’s forces from retaking them? That, in fact, is the only logical explanation for their behaviour.

Clearly, the SDF is not acting on its own behalf, but merely following Washington’s orders putting itself at great risk (of direct aerial bombardment by the Russian Airforce) simply to placate Washington’s insatiable lust for oil.

Full article .....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47943.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:37 pm

Things seem to be hotting up ..... I think that very soon Russia will have to cease providing the US with information as a logical appraisal of events says the US appears to be handing it on to the terrorists.

Syria - Russia Issues Third Warning Against U.S. Cooperation With Terrorists

The Syrian Army was on its way across the Euphrates river to liberate the oil- and gas-fields east of Deir Ezzor city. The U.S. countered the move. It sent a small forces of Arab tribal mercenaries who were earlier allied with the Islamic State (ISIS). These proxy forces came from a northern direction and moved through Islamic State held areas without fighting and casualties up to the walls of Deir Ezzor city.

(Map by Weekend Warrior)

The Syrian army was about to win the race when it started to cross the Euphrates. But it suddenly was surprised by a large al-Qaeda attack in southern Idleb province. That area had been quiet for months. 29 Russian troops who were supervising a deescalation zone there were nearly encircled by al-Qaeda forces. They only escape after an emergency relief operation had cut through al-Qaeda lines. The Russian Ministry of Defense accused the U.S. of having communicated the position of the Russian platoon to al-Qaeda.

Full article by Moon of Alabama:

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/10/syria-russia-issues-third-warning-against-us-cooperation-with-terrorists.html
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:26 pm

Yialousa ...... you started this thread on Feb 19th 2012 and today, over five years later, it has had over 100,000 views (actually 100,059).

So there must be interest in the subject as the total still rises daily ...... what a shame that so few add their comments/opinions?

Congratulations ....... this HAS to be a record for the forum? :D :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:57 pm

Robin, I think most have exhausted their views on the Syrian issue, my self included. On entering this discussion a few years back i clearly stated my absolute opposition to any involvement by the West, namely the US Britain and others.
Im , to say the least , flabbergasted at the initial demand by the West that Assad should step down and that somehow western style democracy could be introduced to this region.

I also said that democracy, as we know it in the West, can NEVER be established in nations where theocracy rules.
Thousands upon thousands killed , refugees flooding Europe, yet Assad still rules.
Let them get on with it, only a dictatorship can rule these countries.
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