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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kimon07 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:31 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:For the interest of Cyprusand Greece(now allied with Israel), doesnt it make sense to allow Syria's Assad, to fall from power. First it would give the Syrian Kurds, a chance to form their own country, next to Turkey. Second a less belligerent Syria towards Israel would free up the Israeli army for any future conflict with Turkey(or threat of)...


1. Israel does not share a land border with Turkey. Therefore, any conflict between them would be in the air and in the sea.

2. Syria would be too happy to see Israel pounding Turkey. Ever thought of Syria trying to take advantage of such a clash to get back Alexandretta from Turkey?

3. Have you considered the scenario that Israel would like to see some northern Syrian territories just passing under the control of the Kurds in order for the "greater Kurdistan" to be formed? That would weaken both Syria and Turkey as Turkey's Kurds would be the next to try to gain autonomy/independence of the Turkish Kurdistan just like the Iraqi case.

Personally I believe that Israel would prefer such developments much more than having a new Libya next to it.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:21 am

kimon07 wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:For the interest of Cyprusand Greece(now allied with Israel), doesnt it make sense to allow Syria's Assad, to fall from power. First it would give the Syrian Kurds, a chance to form their own country, next to Turkey. Second a less belligerent Syria towards Israel would free up the Israeli army for any future conflict with Turkey(or threat of)...


1. Israel does not share a land border with Turkey. Therefore, any conflict between them would be in the air and in the sea.



2. Syria would be too happy to see Israel pounding Turkey. Ever thought of Syria trying to take advantage of such a clash to get back Alexandretta from Turkey

3. Have you considered the scenario that Israel would like to see some northern Syrian territories just passing under the control of the Kurds in order for the "greater Kurdistan" to be formed? That would weaken both Syria and Turkey as Turkey's Kurds would be the next to try to gain autonomy/independence of the Turkish Kurdistan just like the Iraqi case.

Personally I believe that Israel would prefer such developments much more than having a new Libya next to it.



Turkey is well on its way of being "contained", if there is any conflict between Israel and Turkey, its almost a sure thing that Cyprus will be affected or included. The Kurds are already taking advantage of the situation and clamoring for a state. What would Turkey do if that did happen?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kimon07 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:34 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:The Kurds are already taking advantage of the situation and clamoring for a state. What would Turkey do if that did happen?


What did they do when the autonomous Kurdistan region was formed in Iraq (oil reach Mosul and Kirkuk)?

NOTHING!

Unless their bosses and protectors (USA/UK) wish otherwise :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:19 pm

Just learnt the Syrian Prime Minister has defected to the opposition
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:08 pm

Horrors of war: Mass grave discovered in Damascus

Published: 06 August, 2012, 18:07

As the Syrian Army expelled rebel forces out of the capital of Damascus, soldiers discovered a mass grave of 20 corpses buried under rocks and other debris.

­The mass grave was uncovered in the Yelda district of Damascus, which had been under rebel control for the past few days. The 20 corpses the army dug up were burnt and defaced, said China’s Xinhua news agency.

Armed men harassed and killed the civilians, and then buried the bodies, locals told RT Arabic’s correspondents. Some described the stench of dead corpses blanketing entire areas of the city. The victims reportedly include both civilians and military personnel. Others claimed that the number killed is much higher than the 20 reported.

RT Arabic filmed footage of the gravesite, but it was confiscated by police as they were leaving.

Evidence of acts of mass-murder has been surfacing in the past month. An amateur video from Syria emerged online showing the apparent mass execution of Assad supporters in Aleppo by Free Syria Army rebels on July 31. The footage showed several bloodied men in their underwear being forced to kneel by a wall amidst an excited crowd, before they were shot dead.

This latest violence comes days after Kofi Annan announced that he will resign as the UN-Arab League Special Envoy to Syria at the end of August.

http://www.rt.com/news/mass-grave-syria-damascus-955/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:19 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:For the interest of Cyprusand Greece(now allied with Israel), doesnt it make sense to allow Syria's Assad, to fall from power. First it would give the Syrian Kurds, a chance to form their own country, next to Turkey. Second a less belligerent Syria towards Israel would free up the Israeli army for any future conflict with Turkey(or threat of)...


Not if you're an Ethnic Greek living in Lebanon or Syria it dosen't!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:26 pm

would an Assad free Syria be less antagonstic to Israel? not if Iranian backed Islamists get their way.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:30 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:would an Assad free Syria be less antagonstic to Israel? not if Iranian backed Islamists get their way.


You mean British backed Islamists, Iran fully supports Assad! :roll: You fully support Britain therefore you fully support the invasion of Cyprus/Syria by Islamists. :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:48 pm

some of the Islamists may be British but I doubt they are British backed, and I do not support the Invasion of Syria or Cyprus by islamists.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kimon07 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:11 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:would an Assad free Syria be less antagonstic to Israel? not if Iranian backed Islamists get their way.


But Assad is backed by Iran already. Confusing isn't it? All I can say is this: The fact that the USA and Turkey are supporting the insurgency, this is a good enough reason for us to be against it. And the fact that Israel doesn't move a finger to support it means it wants Assad to stay. At least for now.
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