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Greece to Leave Euro Zone on June 18...if

Postby boomerang » Tue May 29, 2012 2:25 pm

Greece to Leave Euro Zone on June 18: Wealth Manager
Published: Monday, 28 May 2012 | 7:19 AM ET Text Size By: Shai Ahmed
CNBC Associate Editor

Greece will leave the euro zone on June 18 if the populist government wins the country’s elections on the 17 as the rest of the euro zone rounds on "cheaters," Nick Dewhirst, director at wealth management firm Integral Asset Management, told CNBC.com Monday.

“The euro zone is a club but you get cheaters who get away with it until everyone finds out and at that point you need to remove them otherwise everyone will cheat. It’s better for Greece to leave,” Dewhirst said.

He added that Greek society was built on cheating and scheming, saying “everyone does it” but that voters elsewhere in the euro zone were now calling Greece to account.

“The basic question is that a German has to increase working from 65 to 67 and that is to pay for Greeks retiring at 50. The 17th of June is the perfect opportunity to say either 'we’ll behave' or 'we’ll carry on cheating,'" he said.

Christine Lagarde, the head of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) sparked criticism in Greece after saying that Greeks needed to start paying their taxes, with Socialist leader Evangelos Venizelos accusing her of "insulting the Greek people." Greece was forced to call for a new round of elections, which will take place on June 17 after the country failed to pick a decisive winner in elections earlier this month.

Far left parties against the country’s bailout agreement received strong support from the electorate disheartened by harsh austerity measures in a country now in its fifth year of recession. However, polls at the weekend showed support for the pro euro bailout parties increasing enough to form a coalition.

Dewhirst said that there had been a significant amount of "scaremongering" from the euro elite about the ramifications of a "Grexit" but that it would be feasible and even orderly.

“It’s a bit like Y2K, [also known as the Millennium bug, the much- hyped problems that would affect computers globally as the year changed to 2000] there would be a lot less to it then everyone thinks.


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"The Greek banking system would close for a week and there’ll be a new currency. Not the drachma but ideally it would be two Geuros (the name given to a possible Greek parallel currency) to one euro so they devalue and fix to the euro,” Dewhirst said.

He added that this would transform Greece and the rest of the euro zone for the better.

“Greeks would no longer be able to afford German cars and Germans would be able to buy Greek villas and the young unemployed in Greece would have jobs as tourism booms. The best thing would be that they [Greeks] could blame the foreigners,” Dewhirst said.

He said suggestions of a bank run and contagion have been overplayed by some quarters.

“Yes, the banks would run dry but it can be done, there is a lot more money electronically than there is cash. In Argentina they closed everyone’s bank account and then they were reopened using Pesos. The club would rally round the rest so the weaker members - Spain, Italy, Ireland and Portugal -would receive a massive support mechanism. The Germans would provide support to the rest of the euro but not to the Greeks,” he said.

Kit Juckes, global head of foreign exchange at Societe Generale, told CNBC’s “Worldwide Exchange” that the best outcome was “the status quo.” “A Greek economy in depression, austerity that guarantees they’ll stay in depression and living on life support from the rest of Europe is the best,” he said.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/47587509


he is right no one likes cheaters...another point is that you mess with the euro you gonna get bonked big time...better for the greeks to bow down to their masters...and do what they are told...save some pain atleast...

harsh words hell yes...what did the greeks expect?...to still credit card the frappe?...


PS...i added the if in the title...i didn't want to be responsiple for kimon and the mad cow busting any veins...
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Re: Greece to Leave Euro Zone on June 18...if

Postby CBBB » Tue May 29, 2012 3:00 pm

Well, I suppose if Nick Dewhirst (who?) says so, it must be true!
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Re: Greece to Leave Euro Zone on June 18...if

Postby boomerang » Tue May 29, 2012 3:46 pm

what really hurts more if anyone had a favourable opinion of greece has changed his opinion and not only that even the us rednecks now know greece is a corrupt country...

in 1000 years greece would be remembered as the country that was governed by a corrupt society...no for who they were 2000 years ago...

as i said earlier real greeks do not exist anymore...they lost their honour long time ago...

kimon dreams of large oil fields...but kimon you need balls to play this game...again not only the greeks lost their honour but today they haven't even got cojones...not even in the shadow of the 300 spartans...
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Re: Greece to Leave Euro Zone on June 18...if

Postby boomerang » Wed May 30, 2012 7:31 am

Marred by Corruption, Future of Greece Uncertain
By Alex Johnston
March 1, 2012Last Updated: March 14, 2012.

Greek police officers attend a demonstration against austerity measures in Athens on Feb. 28. According to a new report, economic recovery could be hampered by widespread corruption that is rarely punished. (ARIS MESSINIS/AFP/Getty Images)

A report found that corruption in Greece is rampant throughout the business, political, and media sectors and could hamper the country’s long-term recovery, despite receiving a $170 billion bailout from the eurozone.

The watchdog group Transparency International released its findings on Greece on Wednesday. “We all know about the debt crisis, but Greece is also suffering a crisis of values,” Costas Bakouris, the head of the group’s branch in Greece, said in a statement.

“[Greece] has the right laws in place but does little to enforce them. The law is being violated, the illegal is being legalized, and the international commitments to fight corruption are being ignored,” he added.

Greek businesses and bureaucrats do not try to stop corrupt practices but actually engage in them, the organization said. Even though the country has a number of anti-corruption laws, they are often overlooked and are rarely enforced.

“The laws are there, and institutions already have teeth—they just need to bite,” Bakouris said.

Many laws that have been put in place nullify other laws that are supposed to prevent corrupt practices. For example, the watchdog said that illegally built buildings can be approved later, accounts can be validated without a tax inspector, and many government agencies have special accounts that cannot be viewed by watchdog groups or inspectors.

The private, judiciary, and public sectors were identified by Transparency International as the most problematic, while the Ombudsman offices were the least problematic.

In a European Union-commissioned survey published earlier this month, 98 percent of Greeks said corruption is a major problem. It found that 88 percent said corruption is a big part of the business culture throughout the country.

Greece relies heavily on other eurozone countries to remain solvent but has struggled for years to place reforms on its economy and climb out of a deep recession.

The bailout package requires that Greece impose austerity cuts but also demands labor market and public sector reforms in return. Greek Prime Minister Lucas Papademos, in what he described as a “symbolic act of solidarity,” gave up his salary last month, the Ekathimerini newspaper reported.

On the organization’s 2011 corruption index, with higher numbers being more corrupt, Greece ranked 80th out of 183 and was ranked as less corrupt than countries that include Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Nambia. It was tied with Thailand.

“This crisis is a unique opportunity to redefine lost values and re-establish national institutions,” Bakouris said.

The watchdog recommended that Greece have stronger rules over the budgetary accounts of political parties, more transparency within private companies, and that it should place all anti-corruption agencies into a single entity.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/marred-by-corruption-future-of-greece-uncertain-198890.html


In a European Union-commissioned survey published earlier this month, 98 percent of Greeks said corruption is a major problem. It found that 88 percent said corruption is a big part of the business culture throughout the country.


amazing a nation full of cheaters and schemers...
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