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Cypriots less hostile to Turkey in EU-poll

Postby Sotos » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:43 pm

Oct 3, 2005 — NICOSIA (Reuters) - Greek Cypriots are mildly less hostile to Turkish EU accession negotiations than their other European peers, a poll showed on Monday.

Almost one-third of Greek Cypriots, 31 percent, support Turkish accession to the European Union because they believe it would help end the island's partition, according to the Noverna poll for Politis.

Thirty-three percent said the accession negotiations had a negative impact on chances for a settlement. Eighteen percent said it would have no impact and an equal percentage failed to respond, it said.

The start of Turkish entry talks hung in the balance on Monday with EU member Austria insisting on offering Turkey a status in the bloc falling short of full membership.

About 80 percent of Austrian voters oppose the accession of Turkey, a sprawling predominantly Muslim nation of more than 70 million.

Cyprus, an EU member since 2004 but effectively represented only by the Greek Cypriot south, was partitioned in a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.

It has a large Turkish Cypriot community who live in a breakaway northern state recognized only by Ankara, and who are regarded as EU citizens.

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Postby Piratis » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:16 am

A politis poll? Politis is known for their not so accurate polls.

In any case I think these results are natural. Cypriots want a European Turkey, one that respects other EU countries that is.

It would be very difficult for Turks to enter the EU. A fair solution to the Cyprus problem will remove an excuse and a reason to block Turkey, and will give Turkey 2 fanatical supporters of their EU accession.

Will Turkey ever realize that choosing the way of conflict is not for her own interests?
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:52 pm

will give Turkey 2 fanatical supporters of their EU accession.


The time will show that. Obviously, you (G.C in general) will not like to see Anatolian parasites in Cyprus after Turkey's membership to EU. :wink:
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:51 am

A politis poll? Politis is known for their not so accurate polls.


well i know that their views are not "patriotic"
they are still the second newspaper when it somes to sales, without being supported by a political party

ehm...
are their polls not accurate indeed?
that would be really interesting..

bc it is one thing to say i disagree with their views
and another to say : they are lying
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:39 pm

The time will show that. Obviously, you (G.C in general) will not like to see Anatolian parasites in Cyprus after Turkey's membership to EU.

We have no problem with Anatolians as long as they come in a legal way. Actually if the solution of the Cyprus problem happens at the same time with the EU accession then a large number of the settlers could be allowed to stay (without keeping stolen property of course) with the status of EU citizen.

What we would have a problem (and I think you would also) are millions of foreigners (Anatolian or not it doesn't matter) settling in Cyprus. Some limits should be in place.

they are still the second newspaper when it somes to sales, without being supported by a political party

The question is from where they get their support.

Regarding their polls it is up to everybody to judge. In polls were the level of accuracy can be verified (e.g. Annan plan referendum) Politis had made the most misleading polls. Maybe that has something to do with their funding.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:15 am

The question is from where they get their support.


and the answer is?...

Regarding their polls it is up to everybody to judge


how would you judge alexandros polls?
it was also in politis
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Postby Piratis » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:30 am

and the answer is?...

From non Cypriots.

how would you judge alexandros polls?
it was also in politis

It was in politis and I believe in some other newspapers as well. It was not made for Politis (Politis didn't pay Alexandros to do it as far as I know). Also I didn't say that say that all polls from Politis are inaccurate. However since some of them intentionally are, it is much harder to trust them.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:08 pm

Piratis wrote:
The time will show that. Obviously, you (G.C in general) will not like to see Anatolian parasites in Cyprus after Turkey's membership to EU.

We have no problem with Anatolians as long as they come in a legal way. Actually if the solution of the Cyprus problem happens at the same time with the EU accession then a large number of the settlers could be allowed to stay (without keeping stolen property of course) with the status of EU citizen.

What we would have a problem (and I think you would also) are millions of foreigners (Anatolian or not it doesn't matter) settling in Cyprus. Some limits should be in place.

they are still the second newspaper when it somes to sales, without being supported by a political party

The question is from where they get their support.

Regarding their polls it is up to everybody to judge. In polls were the level of accuracy can be verified (e.g. Annan plan referendum) Politis had made the most misleading polls. Maybe that has something to do with their funding.

Piratis,

if Turkey is to ever etner the EU then in accordance with their new EU democratic rights Turks from anatolia, would have the right to move freely and reside in Cyprus indefinitely. How would you react to that? Would permament derrogations on the rights of Turks, EU Citizens, be acceptable to you in this case?
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Postby Piratis » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:53 pm

Those rights that you talk about are not human rights but legal rights that come as a result of intergovernmental agreements.
As you know all the new EU members (except Cyprus and Malta) have a different kind of agreement with the rest EU members regarding this issue.
Therefore if Turks will have this legal right or not will depend on the agreement that will be made. If they will not, this will be the result of the agreement. Freedom of residence in other countries is not a human right (except if you are qualified for asylum).

Therefore I will repeat:
We have no problem with Anatolians as long as they come in a legal way.


Will other EU countries agree that Turks can have the freedom to reside freely in their own countries? This will depend. If Turkey doesn't change a lot the answer will obviously be "no".
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