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Re: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:40 pm

From the Mail interview, this phrase is interesting:

"young Turkish Cypriots are shocked by his tale, reports Petros, having been brainwashed to believe (like their Greek Cypriot counterparts) that all atrocities in 1974 were carried out against them."

Remember this is 2012, and young TCs, in the age of the internet are shocked to learn that their compatriots carried out massacres! The words in brackets are also interesting, presumably put there by the interviewer to provide what he sees as balance. I doubt that such balance is necessary. The events of Maratha and Sandalaris are not taboo topics, at least not among Cypriots that I know. In everyday GC talk we openly refer to the events for what they were, massacres carried out by GCs. It seems that even now, the victim myth is strong in the TC community. Once they swallow that bit, the rest is easy: the GCs, perceived as the only murdering side, got their comeuppance in 1974, then there is the bit about the two communities not being able to coexist so partition is necessary. Palekythor, Afania, Yialousa, Agios Sergios (where the 39th division proved they were the best in NATO) do not register. Just read the posts by VP above for proof.

I wonder how the young TCs understand the mixed villages in which their parents lived, or the Greek Orthodox saints' names for some TC villages. Why was Dentkash, for instance, born in Saint Basil and not some place ending in Koy.

The north prides itself for its many univerisities. For such a univerity studded place it does not seem to breed many open minds.
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Re: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:28 pm

Nikitas wrote:From the Mail interview, this phrase is interesting:

"young Turkish Cypriots are shocked by his tale, reports Petros, having been brainwashed to believe (like their Greek Cypriot counterparts) that all atrocities in 1974 were carried out against them."

Remember this is 2012, and young TCs, in the age of the internet are shocked to learn that their compatriots carried out massacres! The words in brackets are also interesting, presumably put there by the interviewer to provide what he sees as balance. I doubt that such balance is necessary. The events of Maratha and Sandalaris are not taboo topics, at least not among Cypriots that I know. In everyday GC talk we openly refer to the events for what they were, massacres carried out by GCs. It seems that even now, the victim myth is strong in the TC community. Once they swallow that bit, the rest is easy: the GCs, perceived as the only murdering side, got their comeuppance in 1974, then there is the bit about the two communities not being able to coexist so partition is necessary. Palekythor, Afania, Yialousa, Agios Sergios (where the 39th division proved they were the best in NATO) do not register. Just read the posts by VP above for proof.

I wonder how the young TCs understand the mixed villages in which their parents lived, or the Greek Orthodox saints' names for some TC villages. Why was Dentkash, for instance, born in Saint Basil and not some place ending in Koy.

The north prides itself for its many univerisities. For such a univerity studded place it does not seem to breed many open minds.


The Turkish Cypriot youth is just not interested in what happened in the past, for them thats all it is something that happend before they were born, all are interested in is the TRNC and how they will have a good time.....like youth the world over, I have a few myself so I know.

As I have said before for the majority of TCs including myself who do not know the south and only the TRNC, the south is no different form any other foreign land it can be visited but you always want to come home to the TRNC.

The fact that we are divided and nowhere near agreeing to live together only proves that we are incapable of living and working together, neither side wants to share on a equal footing therefore we have the solution we deserve.
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Re: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:56 pm

Nikitas wrote:From the Mail interview, this phrase is interesting:

"young Turkish Cypriots are shocked by his tale, reports Petros, having been brainwashed to believe (like their Greek Cypriot counterparts) that all atrocities in 1974 were carried out against them."

Remember this is 2012, and young TCs, in the age of the internet are shocked to learn that their compatriots carried out massacres! The words in brackets are also interesting, presumably put there by the interviewer to provide what he sees as balance. I doubt that such balance is necessary. The events of Maratha and Sandalaris are not taboo topics, at least not among Cypriots that I know. In everyday GC talk we openly refer to the events for what they were, massacres carried out by GCs. It seems that even now, the victim myth is strong in the TC community. Once they swallow that bit, the rest is easy: the GCs, perceived as the only murdering side, got their comeuppance in 1974, then there is the bit about the two communities not being able to coexist so partition is necessary. Palekythor, Afania, Yialousa, Agios Sergios (where the 39th division proved they were the best in NATO) do not register. Just read the posts by VP above for proof.

I wonder how the young TCs understand the mixed villages in which their parents lived, or the Greek Orthodox saints' names for some TC villages. Why was Dentkash, for instance, born in Saint Basil and not some place ending in Koy.

The north prides itself for its many univerisities. For such a univerity studded place it does not seem to breed many open minds.


so when niyazi kizilyurek mentioned them on a tv discussion program few years back why was the show taken off the air exactly.
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Re: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:34 am

I happen to know professon Kizilyurek exclusively from his appearances on RIK and from interviews he gave to Greek TV stations. I have seen him speak about Maratha more than once, so he was not taken off the air on those occasions. Also on RIK I heard an interview with Sener Levent where he shat all over the Aphrodiete plan as being an anti TC conspiracy, he was not taken off the air.

Now tell us of any equivalent broadcasts on Bayrak.

As for VPs contention that TC youth are only interested in having a good time. Look on Google Earth, the landscape of southern Cyprus is full of TC photos, taken mostly at abandoned TC villages, with Turkish language captions. Obviously some TCs, young enough to climb hills, feel curious about their past and search it out.

As for looking to the future. Two choices, a federation, where everyone will reside where they choose, and you can watch people gravitate to where the work and the money is, or, partition which will fix the division. Having closely followed the mythology obviously at work behind TC poster assumptions on this forum, it looks more like partition. Just remember, it is your choice.
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Re: PETROS SOUPPOURIS, THE MAN!

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:23 pm

...we remember.
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