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Postby Sotos » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:12 am

geez come on... so you don't fly air france. , brit airways, scandinavian, singapore airlines and etc etc...


Those airlines lost an airplane or two. But they have a lot of airplanes and they have been flying for many years. Helios had 3 planes and was flying for just a couple of years. Loosing 1 out of 3 airplanes in such a short time is a very bad record!
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Postby Fisherman2006 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:16 am

I agree with that
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Postby Kenneth » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:52 am

Yes I admit that it doesn't look nice on paper. So if that accident happened in another airline with 150 aircraft it would not be as bad ? what I mean is that kind of accident can happen to many other airlines with multilingual crew. It is just too bad that the FDR and CVR were found in a too bad condition. Aircraft hull loses do happen all the time all over the world wheter you have 3 or 150 planes. it is just worse when it comes close to you.
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Postby OB1 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:41 pm

Anyway now HELIOS is going fully charter as it was in 2001-2002 (like Eurocypria) and as you know people flying from the UK dont even know that the airline had an accident. Its as if i would ask you if you remember which airline crashed before Helios did....nobody remembers
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Postby Kenneth » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:50 pm

huh.. there are plenty of scheduled flights according to their website? u work for them and have inside knowledge or what ? :)
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Postby GIz33k0 » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:12 am

Hold on, of course its different, wasnt this helios plane that crashed known to have tech problems before it took off but the airline let it anyway just so they didnt have to waste money.. did any off the other airlines do that when one of there planes crashed? I dont think so.
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Postby Kenneth » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:44 am

what I've heard was that there was no problem with the aircraft. The problem was that the cabin pressurization controller panel on the p6-5 overhead panel was left in the manual config after maintenance with the outflow valve in the open position. Therefore it could not hold the required diff press.
that should have been seen by the plots when they did their routine cockpit set up check. The most fatal thing was that on the B737Classic there is a valve in the cockpit where you can shut off crew oxygen supply, that is likely that it may have been closed. and therefore now flow of O2 to the cockpit. BUT that is to be tested by the pilots on every before start up check list. So blame the pilots for not following the checklist and stop all the crap about poor maintence. everyday planes depart with minor defects thats not a problem as long as the defect is described in the minimun equipment list.
don't believe in anything you read in the tabloids.
It's an tragedy that easily could be avoided.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:26 am

Kenneth, what you say probably the version that the company want us to believe. How can you be so sure that the plane was OK? You were not the one checking it, right?
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Postby Angel Eyes » Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:18 am

Hiya :) I booked my flight to Luton with Helios in August, flew on Tuesday (21/12/05)......The plane was near enough empty.....I will admit I was a bit apprehensive about flying with them :shock: , but as a few people pointed out to me, after the accident they will probably (and hopefully) be checking everything even more than usual so, hopefully are ok to use :? I wish I had never read this topic because Im flying back with them on Wednesday and I feel a bit more paranoid now :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby GIz33k0 » Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:54 pm

Dont worry angel eyes, its very unlikely for another accident to happen with this awful airline, they should be acting extra careful. God help me if they arnt.
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