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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:02 pm

halil wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Wa aleikum selâm ya Halil.


u must open one thıs one..... sufi's coffee shop....it will be very popular in UK....get the idea from below link....

it might be good in Cyprus too....must be so close to Lokmaci that GR will pop in too....to find his true soul :!:


http://www.suficoffeeshop.org/

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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:02 pm

:oops:
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denizaksulu wrote:Wa aleikum selâm ya Halil.


:!: THE INTEREST WITHOUT THE CAPITAL

The lover's food is the love of the bread;
no bread need be at hand:
no one who is sincere in his love is a slave to existence.

Lovers have nothing to do with with with existence;
lovers have the interest without the capital.

Without wings they fly around the world;
without hands they carry the polo ball off the field.

That dervish who caught the scent of Reality
used to weave basket even though his hand had been cut off.

Lover have pitched their tents in nonexistence:
they are of one quality and one essence, as nonexistence is. :!:


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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:57 pm

The polo ball? :? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kimon07 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:39 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Thats why we have freedom of choice my friend. How can one get bored with you and GiGy aboard. (no pun intended).

Why do you think I AM BACK? Lol

Well Kimon thought it was his inspiring Hellenistan posts that pull in the viewers! :|


Yes, I do think Hellenism is inspiring. Related to the topic now:

According to the medieval Iranian scholar Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī, the word sūfi is derived from the Greek word sofia (σοφία), meaning wisdom.[16][17][18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism#Ety ... f_the_term

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Poor, poor you. You can not escape from IT.

Now, as for the value of what Biruni said:

Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... /al-Biruni

and

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%AB_R ... %ABn%C4%AB

Abū al-Rayhān Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Bīrūnī[n 1] (born 5 September 973 in Kath, Khwarezm, now region in Uzbekistan, died 13 December 1048 in Ghazni) known as Alberonius in Latin and Al-Biruni in English[3], was a Persian[4]-Chorasmian[5][6] Muslim scholar and polymath of the 11th century.
Al-Biruni is regarded as one of the greatest scholars of the medieval Islamic era and was well versed in physics, mathematics, astronomy, and natural sciences, and also distinguished himself as a historian, chronologist and linguist.[6] He was conversant in Chorasmian, Persian, Arabic, Sanskrit, and also knew Greek, Hebrew and Syriac.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby halil » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Wa aleikum selâm ya Halil.


u must open one thıs one..... sufi's coffee shop....it will be very popular in UK....get the idea from below link....

it might be good in Cyprus too....must be so close to Lokmaci that GR will pop in too....to find his true soul :!:


http://www.suficoffeeshop.org/

:lol:


Vasiliguamu psindiri
Yabragları yeşildir
Thozmu ge mena ena filâgi
Paralarım peşindir............................ :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:34 pm

kimon07 wrote:
According to the medieval Iranian scholar Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī, the word sūfi is derived from the Greek word sofia (σοφία), meaning wisdom.[16][17][18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism#Ety ... f_the_term

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Poor, poor you. You can not escape from IT.

So where do you suppose the “Greek” language came from? The imaginary land of Hellenia where warring Slavic tribes couldn’t agree on anything other than the need to eliminate each other, or the prosperous unitary Kingdom of Alashya that the great pharaohs of Egypt wrote about? You know that little island… the cradle of civilization where language, culture, and religion flourished before anything “Greek” ever existed?
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:53 pm

And there was me thinking that the word Sûfi derived its name from the word they use for 'wool'; referring to the woolen cloaks thy wear. Yet some scholars combine both meanings into the expression, ' covering your wisdom under a woolen cloak'. :D

Learn and search not ith your eyes closed. :wink:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:42 pm

denizaksulu wrote:And there was me thinking that the word Sûfi derived its name from the word they use for 'wool'; referring to the woolen cloaks thy wear. Yet some scholars combine both meanings into the expression, ' covering your wisdom under a woolen cloak'. :D

Learn and search not ith your eyes closed. :wink:


Congrats Deniz... it's "wool"

Here's the OED entry on Sufi...

Sufi, n.1
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Pronunciation: /ˈsuːfɪ/
Forms: 16 Suffi, 16, 18 Sofee, 17 Souffee, 17–18 Sofi, 18 Soof(f)ee, Soofi, Soophee, 18 Sufi.
Etymology: < Arabic çūfī lit. ‘man of wool’, < çūf wool (see Margoliouth Early Devel. Mohamm., 1914, 141). Compare French sofi , soufi . It has often been erron. associated with Sophy n.1, q.v.(Show Less)
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One of a sect of Muslim ascetic mystics who in later times embraced pantheistic views.

1650 R. Withers tr. O. Bon Descr. Grand Signor's Seraglio 187 Those Turks which..would be accounted Sofees [margin. Puritans] do commonly read, as they walk along the streets.
1796 J. Morse Amer. Universal Geogr. (new ed.) II. 571 Some of them called Souffees, who are a kind of quietists.
1815 M. Elphinstone Acct. Kingdom Caubul Introd. 62 The mystical doctrines of the Sofees.
1872 J. R. Lowell Dante in Prose Wks. (1890) IV. 149 A Soofi who has passed the fourth step of initiation.
1875 Encycl. Brit. II. 677/2 The Persian Sufis specially distinguished themselves by their practice of abstinence and solitary meditation.
attrib.
1815 M. Elphinstone Acct. Kingdom Caubul ii. v. 208 The beauty of the Soofee system.
1886 C. R. Conder Syrian Stone-lore (1896) ix. 342 (note) , The ‘path’, the final ‘unity’ with God, the disbelief in all creeds, [etc.]..which form the great Sufi doctrines, are purely Buddhist.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:53 pm

Why did the Irani chap lie then? :?
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:21 pm

kurupetos wrote:Why did the Irani chap lie then? :?


He did not lie; he looked but did not see. :?
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