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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:57 pm

kurupetos wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:I disagree. I cannot see anything wise in Islam. :?

As if you’ve read the Quran and have made an informed decision! :roll:

That's exactly what I did! :wink:

Not to worry... everyone here believes you! :|
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:00 am

Have read bits of The Bible over the years... but don't think could manage a whole Koran.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kurupetos » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:16 am

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:I disagree. I cannot see anything wise in Islam. :?

As if you’ve read the Quran and have made an informed decision! :roll:

That's exactly what I did! :wink:

Not to worry... everyone here believes you! :|

To answer in the Arcado-Cypriot fashion... ἄγαν θές :wink:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kurupetos » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:17 am

bill cobbett wrote:Have read bits of The Bible over the years... but don't think could manage a whole Koran.

If you plan to read the Koran, buy the toilet-paper version... :wink:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kurupetos » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:28 am

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:I disagree. I cannot see anything wise in Islam. :?

As if you’ve read the Quran and have made an informed decision! :roll:

That's exactly what I did! :wink:

Not to worry... everyone here believes you! :|

I couldn't care less. Just for the record, I read it more than 10 years ago.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:59 am

kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:I disagree. I cannot see anything wise in Islam. :?

As if you’ve read the Quran and have made an informed decision! :roll:

That's exactly what I did! :wink:

Not to worry... everyone here believes you! :|

I couldn't care less. Just for the record, I read it more than 10 years ago.

Of course you did... :|
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:21 am

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denizaksulu wrote:KP, what would you say had someone said to you,"you should thank Islamic scholars for saving and resurrecting the lost Hellenic heritage for future generations"? :D

I would say that this is a lie. The Arabs burned 40,000 books when they conquered Alexandria. :roll:

The Moslems invaded Egypt during the seventh century as their fanaticism carried them on conquests that would take form an empire stretching from Spain to India. There was not much of a struggle in Egypt and the locals found the rule of the Caliph to be more tolerant than that of the Byzantines before them. However, when a Christian called John informed the local Arab general that there existed in Alexandria a great Library preserving all the knowledge in the world he was perturbed. Eventually he sent word to Mecca where Caliph Omar ordered that all the books in the library should be destroyed because, as he said "they will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous." Therefore, the books and scrolls were taken out of the library and distributed as fuel to the many bathhouses of the city. So enormous was the volume of literature that it took six months for it all to be burnt to ashes heating the saunas of the conquerors.


Bloody Arabs, but Arabs were not the only muslims KPNut. :roll:
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kimon07 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:21 am

bill cobbett wrote:ouch... leggo of me arm... it hurts.... no... never... ouch... oh alright then...

Sorry Kimon... for having burst another one of your bubbles.


You mean like the Olympic games or like the Pankration? I suggest you go back to the threads again to see which bubbles have been actualy burst.
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby kimon07 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:29 am

denizaksulu wrote:KP, what would you say had someone said to you,"you should thank Islamic scholars for saving and resurrecting the lost Hellenic heritage for future generations"? :D


I would say you are perfectly right to a great extend. They did not really "resurrect it" because it kept thriving in the Byzantine territories. The Islamic scholars, together with the Byzantine Greeks who fled to Italy, brought the Hellenic heritage back to West Europe where it had been lost for centuries, through Italy (the Greeks) and through Spain (the Arabs).
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Re: Sufis in Cyprus...

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:39 pm

Just trying to enlighten KP.

Since he likes reading KP should try Avicenna/İbn Sina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

And/or Al-Farabî. There are others but this will suffice for now.
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