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Postby Lordo » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:33 pm

come on boys you can do better than that. there are three plans talking about eliminating the enclaves and not a whisper.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:34 am

Yes, let's first go back and deal with the speech allegedly made by Pres Makarios in Panayia on 4 Sept 1962 in which he is claimed to have said...

“Until this small Turkish community that forms part of the turkish race which has been the terrible enemy of hellenism is expelled, the duty to the heroes of eoga cannot be considered as terminated”.

Have gone in to the basement level of CF where there a re a few dusty boxes containing our past deliberations on the matter and from which our Pyro gave info that the claim was made in a book written or published by people he called the "Rustem Bros".

A little gogling reveals this as the journal "Excerpta Cypria for Today" by Rustem and Brother, edited by Andrew Faulds, a GB MP, and published in Lefkosha-Istanbul-London in 1988. (Some sources give it as published in 1998)

Some sources give Rustem and Brother as publishers with the late Andrew Faulds as author.

An obituary for Andrew Faulds describes him as being "pro-Turkey".

So the earliest written record of the speech being made and it must in the lack of other evidence be allegedly made, is in a book written by a "pro-Turkey" MP and published by a company partly based in the Occupied Areas and in Turkey, prob in 1988.

There are sources that make the same single sentence reference that Rough Donktosh wrote a letter of protest to the alleged speech on an unspecified date, but they do not reproduce the letter or anything more of its content.

Anyone found a record pre-dating 1988...??? ... cos let's face it, it's looking more and more like a piece of fear and hate-stirring propaganda with Rough's name on it.... unless a figure in the shadows can come up with anything more please.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:42 am

BC...lordo is well known as the bruiser...
The Bruiser: - One who farts so hard and loud that he bruises his butt checks.


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Re: Information required.

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:49 am

bill cobbett wrote:Yes, let's first go back and deal with the speech allegedly made by Pres Makarios in Panayia on 4 Sept 1962 in which he is claimed to have said...

“Until this small Turkish community that forms part of the turkish race which has been the terrible enemy of hellenism is expelled, the duty to the heroes of eoga cannot be considered as terminated”.

Have gone in to the basement level of CF where there a re a few dusty boxes containing our past deliberations on the matter and from which our Pyro gave info that the claim was made in a book written or published by people he called the "Rustem Bros".

A little gogling reveals this as the journal "Excerpta Cypria for Today" by Rustem and Brother, edited by Andrew Faulds, a GB MP, and published in Lefkosha-Istanbul-London in 1988. (Some sources give it as published in 1998)

Some sources give Rustem and Brother as publishers with the late Andrew Faulds as author.

An obituary for Andrew Faulds describes him as being "pro-Turkey".

So the earliest written record of the speech being made and it must in the lack of other evidence be allegedly made, is in a book written by a "pro-Turkey" MP and published by a company partly based in the Occupied Areas and in Turkey, prob in 1988.

There are sources that make the same single sentence reference that Rough Donktosh wrote a letter of protest to the alleged speech on an unspecified date, but they do not reproduce the letter or anything more of its content.

Anyone found a record pre-dating 1988...??? ... cos let's face it, it's looking more and more like a piece of fear and hate-stirring propaganda with Rough's name on it.... unless a figure in the shadows can come up with anything more please.


come now you can do better than that, the reference i gave you was in 1974 just before the war. the book was banned by big mak. you do surprise me.
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Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:51 am

boomerang wrote:BC...lordo is well known as the bruiser...
The Bruiser: - One who farts so hard and loud that he bruises his butt checks.


:lol:


you must know all about what we are talking about right. hell you do.
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Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:59 am

just imagine this information coming from a gc lawyer long before the tcs got hold of it. shame innit just ennen.

how are the ducks in cockfosters btw. are they walking alright or have you got to them. double shame you beast.
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Re: Information required.

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:00 am

Lordo wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Yes, let's first go back and deal with the speech allegedly made by Pres Makarios in Panayia on 4 Sept 1962 in which he is claimed to have said...

“Until this small Turkish community that forms part of the turkish race which has been the terrible enemy of hellenism is expelled, the duty to the heroes of eoga cannot be considered as terminated”.

Have gone in to the basement level of CF where there a re a few dusty boxes containing our past deliberations on the matter and from which our Pyro gave info that the claim was made in a book written or published by people he called the "Rustem Bros".

A little gogling reveals this as the journal "Excerpta Cypria for Today" by Rustem and Brother, edited by Andrew Faulds, a GB MP, and published in Lefkosha-Istanbul-London in 1988. (Some sources give it as published in 1998)

Some sources give Rustem and Brother as publishers with the late Andrew Faulds as author.

An obituary for Andrew Faulds describes him as being "pro-Turkey".

So the earliest written record of the speech being made and it must in the lack of other evidence be allegedly made, is in a book written by a "pro-Turkey" MP and published by a company partly based in the Occupied Areas and in Turkey, prob in 1988.

There are sources that make the same single sentence reference that Rough Donktosh wrote a letter of protest to the alleged speech on an unspecified date, but they do not reproduce the letter or anything more of its content.

Anyone found a record pre-dating 1988...??? ... cos let's face it, it's looking more and more like a piece of fear and hate-stirring propaganda with Rough's name on it.... unless a figure in the shadows can come up with anything more please.


come now you can do better than that, the reference i gave you was in 1974 just before the war. the book was banned by big mak. you do surprise me.


Pollocks again Lordo.... You gave us nothing above other than the name of an author and some page numbers... NO BOOK TITLE, NO PUBLISHER AND... NO BLEEDING DATE

Here is the evidence ... from your own post, in your own words, in your own usual lazy and ill-researched style...

try Stavrinides Z., op.cit., pp.63 and 145
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Re: Information required.

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:01 am

i also told you it was banned. the man is alive and well working in leeds uni. surely an email will clear it all up right/ bloody shift key.

get writing and ask him.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:06 am

Lordo wrote:i also told you it was banned. the man is alive and well working in leeds uni. surely an email will clear it all up right/ bloody shift key.

get writing and ask him.


He left Leeds Uni years ago.

Give us the TITLE of the book, publication date... and we'll see whether it is "banned" .

(Anyone got an account with Amazon...?)
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Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:08 am

1974

what more do you need. how many books were banned in the roc in this year.
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