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Re: LPG for cars

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:46 pm

CBBB wrote:
kurupetos wrote:LPG or any other fuel should be favoured only if it can be produced from CY sources. :wink:


You run your vehicles on bullshit?


its been done....

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/02/milk-trucks-in/
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby kurupetos » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:39 pm

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kurupetos wrote:LPG or any other fuel should be favoured only if it can be produced from CY sources. :wink:


So Hot Air would be suitable...???

Defo Billy boy. You can drive a gas turbine with hot air. :wink:
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:57 pm

kurupetos wrote:That's because you are laughable grumpster. :lol:

You don't have to produce the electricity wthin the car though. :wink:

Water can be converted to hydrogen via solar-powered electrolysis, and then hydrogen can be used in cars. :wink:


You are laughable! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sun >>>Water >>> Hydrogen >>> Electricity is probably the MOST inefficient use of energy on the planet today! :lol:

Plus the stuff is almost impossible to store - you need like a 15,000psi tank in your car as a minimum.... :roll:

You'd be much better off arguing sun>>>electricity>>>battery. You might retain some credibility then.... :wink:
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby kurupetos » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:47 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:You are laughable! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sun >>>Water >>> Hydrogen >>> Electricity is probably the MOST inefficient use of energy on the planet today! :lol:

Plus the stuff is almost impossible to store - you need like a 15,000psi tank in your car as a minimum.... :roll:

You'd be much better off arguing sun>>>electricity>>>battery. You might retain some credibility then.... :wink:

Efficiency is not very important when we are talking about renewable energy sources. :roll:

But anyway, RES hydrogen generation has become more and more efficient in recent years. :wink:

Also the storage issue has improved over the last decade with more efficient techniques such as metal hybride storage and carbon absorption. :wink:
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:41 pm

kurupetos wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:You are laughable! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sun >>>Water >>> Hydrogen >>> Electricity is probably the MOST inefficient use of energy on the planet today! :lol:

Plus the stuff is almost impossible to store - you need like a 15,000psi tank in your car as a minimum.... :roll:

You'd be much better off arguing sun>>>electricity>>>battery. You might retain some credibility then.... :wink:

Efficiency is not very important when we are talking about renewable energy sources. :roll:

But anyway, RES hydrogen generation has become more and more efficient in recent years. :wink:

Also the storage issue has improved over the last decade with more efficient techniques such as metal hybride storage and carbon absorption. :wink:


Hydride - not hybride... :roll:

Commercial use of hydrogen as an energy carrier for vehicles is a pipe dream...
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:48 pm

kurupetos wrote:Efficiency is not very important when we are talking about renewable energy sources. :roll:


I have to say, that is one of the most stupid statements on this forum since GIG confused attitude and altitude.... :lol:

Efficiency is not important....

Think about how completely, utterly totally stupid that is for a moment!

Imagine the big sign up at the petrol station...

Unleaded - €1.44
Diesel - €1.45
Heating diesel - €1.00
Hydrogen - €9,985.00

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Re: LPG for cars

Postby kurupetos » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:58 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Efficiency is not very important when we are talking about renewable energy sources. :roll:


I have to say, that is one of the most stupid statements on this forum since GIG confused attitude and altitude.... :lol:

Efficiency is not important....

Think about how completely, utterly totally stupid that is for a moment!

Imagine the big sign up at the petrol station...

Unleaded - €1.44
Diesel - €1.45
Heating diesel - €1.00
Hydrogen - €9,985.00

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What's your source? Wait a mo... Don't tell me... It's smelly. :lol:
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby kurupetos » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:01 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Commercial use of hydrogen as an energy carrier for vehicles is a pipe dream...

Bollocks. :roll: In Germany there are plans for 50 stations by 2015. :wink:

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/06/21/germany-will-have-50-hydrogen-stations-by-2015/
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:10 pm

kurupetos wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Efficiency is not very important when we are talking about renewable energy sources. :roll:


I have to say, that is one of the most stupid statements on this forum since GIG confused attitude and altitude.... :lol:

Efficiency is not important....

Think about how completely, utterly totally stupid that is for a moment!

Imagine the big sign up at the petrol station...

Unleaded - €1.44
Diesel - €1.45
Heating diesel - €1.00
Hydrogen - €9,985.00

Image

What's your source? Wait a mo... Don't tell me... It's smelly. :lol:


You are...

You say that it doesn't matter how efficient its is because it is renewable.... :roll:

So it doesn't matter if it takes vast fields of PV cells to produce a litre of Hydrogen fuel? No matter what the cost...?

I think it was GIG that said that wind farms produced 'free' electricity and you are in the same deluded school of thought....

Look at the cost of producing it, compressing it and/or liquidising it and then the transportation nightmare, the storage of a dangerous gas at 10,000psi in the boot of your car...
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:14 pm

kurupetos wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Commercial use of hydrogen as an energy carrier for vehicles is a pipe dream...

Bollocks. :roll: In Germany there are plans for 50 stations by 2015. :wink:

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/06/21/germany-will-have-50-hydrogen-stations-by-2015/


Plans for... :roll:

I think there is one in the UK...

You have to go on a special safety course before you are allowed to use it - so dangerous is the fuel...
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