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Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:59 pm

I am doing close to 1000 km a week currently costing about 100 euros, Iunderstand that though it offers about 2/3rds the MPG, LPG can offer a number of advantages over petrol, such as fuel cost, and I am thinking of getting an LPG fited car next time - (or getting one converted) however How widely available is LPG for cars and in particular Is there a list of fuel stations which have an LPG facility for cars?

Anyone any experience of running an LPG car?
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:03 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:I am doing close to 1000 km a week currently costing about 100 euros, Iunderstand that though it offers about 2/3rds the MPG, LPG can offer a number of advantages over petrol, such as fuel cost, and I am thinking of getting an LPG fited car next time - (or getting one converted) however How widely available is LPG for cars and in particular Is there a list of fuel stations which have an LPG facility for cars?

Anyone any experience of running an LPG car?


I've never seen an LPG filling facility here...
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:10 pm

See if Yialoser will sell you his car...
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby kurupetos » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:See if Yialoser will sell you his car...

Are you tired? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby rotate » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:34 pm

LPG powered light vehicles, cars vans, were in use in the RoC in the 1970's and possibly into the early 1980's. The conversions were carried out professionally in Cyprus and worked well. I never knew the exact reason for LPG being banned, if indeed it ever was, as a vehicle fuel but family and friends explanations ranged from LPG being dangerous as a result of DIY conversions to the loss of tax revenue from the expected mass migration to LPG from petrol by vehicle owners. LPG and electricity at that time was subsidised as a basic household necessity, LPG by the RoC Government and electricity by the United Nations.
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby CBBB » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:14 pm

rotate wrote:LPG powered light vehicles, cars vans, were in use in the RoC in the 1970's and possibly into the early 1980's. The conversions were carried out professionally in Cyprus and worked well. I never knew the exact reason for LPG being banned, if indeed it ever was, as a vehicle fuel but family and friends explanations ranged from LPG being dangerous as a result of DIY conversions to the loss of tax revenue from the expected mass migration to LPG from petrol by vehicle owners. LPG and electricity at that time was subsidised as a basic household necessity, LPG by the RoC Government and electricity by the United Nations.


The official reason it was banned was the alleged danger. You need to realise that at the time it was a case unstrapping the empty gas bottle from the boot of you car and replacing it with a full one, so filling stations weren't needed. A mate of mine had an Alfa Romeo that had this conversion and it was very economical.
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:23 pm

I can quite see that a semi-loose gas bottle with flexible hoses is not very safe and a pro-conversion with a properly fitted tank and filler system is the best bet. .
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:27 pm

60% of the cost of a litre of petrol or diesel is tax.

Most of us will remember when diesel (a by-product of the production of petrol) was significantly cheaper than petrol. As more refined diesel engines became available diesel cars became much more popular because the cost of the fuel and the increased fuel economy far outweighed the extra cost of the vehicle.

Then the tax on diesel was raised and it now costs more than petrol...

You can see the same thing happening with LPG if it ever takes off...
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby rotate » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:00 pm

CBBB wrote:
rotate wrote:LPG powered light vehicles, cars vans, were in use in the RoC in the 1970's and possibly into the early 1980's. The conversions were carried out professionally in Cyprus and worked well. I never knew the exact reason for LPG being banned, if indeed it ever was, as a vehicle fuel but family and friends explanations ranged from LPG being dangerous as a result of DIY conversions to the loss of tax revenue from the expected mass migration to LPG from petrol by vehicle owners. LPG and electricity at that time was subsidised as a basic household necessity, LPG by the RoC Government and electricity by the United Nations.


The official reason it was banned was the alleged danger. You need to realise that at the time it was a case unstrapping the empty gas bottle from the boot of you car and replacing it with a full one, so filling stations weren't needed. A mate of mine had an Alfa Romeo that had this conversion and it was very economical.


OK thanks, so LPG was banned as a vehicle fuel after all. Yes I do remember the LPG bottle in the boot and the various ingenious ways in which car owners secured them in place ranging from real engineering set ups to bungee straps. I only took a passing interest at the time as I had a company car and free fuel, my own Triumph Herald being still hopefully parked up where I left it in 74 under the car port next to our house in Famagusta.

Is LPG still banned as a vehicle fuel in the RoC :?:
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Re: LPG for cars

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:43 pm

the government announced some sort of scheme for LPG powered cars back in Sepetmber Apprently there must be a professional conversion and some companies are offering a fitting service but the problem seems to be a lack of fueling points.

I saw that in the UK based on an equivalent of 75P/L some one getting 35 MPG (8.07/100) and doing 14000 miles (22500km) would take tabout wo years to get pay back. Ceteris paribus Considering I am paying about 3500PA at curent rates for fuel and a conversion costs about 1500, and after conversion I am probbaly looking at paying about 2400, I Isuspect I could get payback in around 17months. .
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