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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby Demonax » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:38 am

And here's why, exactly as I said earlier, Microsoft's supposed sales numbers are worthless. This time from the respected Information Week:

Microsoft this week tried to mute reports that Windows 8 is off to a slow start, disclosing that it has sold about 40 million licenses for the OS since launch. Microsoft says that's on par with the debut of the highly successful Windows 7. But without additional context, which Redmond refuses to provide, the numbers are meaningless.

The most important fact that can't be gleaned from Microsoft's "disclosure" is the extent to which Windows 8, available to consumers since Oct. 26 and to businesses since mid-August, is driving new hardware sales. Microsoft may have sold millions of Windows 8 licenses to PC makers, but if their touch-tablets, convertibles and all-in-ones are languishing on store shelves or in warehouses, that doesn't bode well for the operating system's future.

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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby boomerang » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:56 am

Demonax wrote:And here's why, exactly as I said earlier, Microsoft's supposed sales numbers are worthless. This time from the respected Information Week:

Microsoft this week tried to mute reports that Windows 8 is off to a slow start, disclosing that it has sold about 40 million licenses for the OS since launch. Microsoft says that's on par with the debut of the highly successful Windows 7. But without additional context, which Redmond refuses to provide, the numbers are meaningless.

The most important fact that can't be gleaned from Microsoft's "disclosure" is the extent to which Windows 8, available to consumers since Oct. 26 and to businesses since mid-August, is driving new hardware sales. Microsoft may have sold millions of Windows 8 licenses to PC makers, but if their touch-tablets, convertibles and all-in-ones are languishing on store shelves or in warehouses, that doesn't bode well for the operating system's future.

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so numbers do not count huh?... a whole of 40 million of them huh?... :lol:

how do you explain 87 million odd computers sold in Q3 2012 then?...SOLD, not stockpiled...

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oh and did i mention apple with all their superior hardware and software don't even get a mentioned rate?...can you explain this?...

for a company in decline as your mentioned sure enough are selling plenty of licenses...care to explain this phenomenon?...care to explain why apple is not even rated at the world stage?...best of all can you explain how is apple gonna take over the world with their prized hardware and software...

go on start googling for answers and get back to me...
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby Demonax » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:11 am

boomerang wrote:
so numbers do not count huh?... a whole of 40 million of them huh?... :lol:

how do you explain 87 million odd computers sold in Q3 2012 then?...SOLD, not stockpiled...


Er, Boomers mate, those figures are for before the release of Windows 8 and ‘show a decline of 8.3 percent compared with the third quarter of 2011, according to preliminary results by Gartner, Inc.’

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=2194017

If you want to know how well PC sales and Windows 8 is currently doing then here is my post from earlier:

Consumer sales of Windows-powered personal computers fell 21 percent overall last month, figures released by a leading retail research firm showed on Thursday, indicating a lackluster debut for Microsoft Corp's Windows 8 operating system. Many in the industry said Windows 8 might revive slack PC sales, but a report by NPD Group, which tracks computer sales weekly using data supplied by retailers, dampened those hopes...

Microsoft Windows 8 makes lukewarm debut: sales tracker
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby boomerang » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:26 am

we all know thatt here is a decline in pc sales...if you were to see the picture i posted it would have been obvious...maybe run it through the ipad with the retna display so you can see it better...

yes Q3 with 87 million computers sold, not counting the shitty apple sales at the world stage, where even a taiwanese company is bitchslapping apple with a higher market share, belonged to win7...

do you honestly believe Q4 2012 will have zero sales?... :lol: ...it will still be in the millions probably even surpassing Q3, because of the holiday season...so what's gonna be your excuse?...we know they sold 40 million copies in 30 days meaning Q4 is a short month for microsoft...Q4 starts 1 of Oct and finishes 31st of dec....win 8 went on sale on the 26th of Oct...

lets face it at the world stage as far as computers are concerned, microsoft hasn't gone anywhere and apple is nowhere to be seen... :lol:

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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby Demonax » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:39 am

boomerang wrote:do you honestly believe Q4 2012 will have zero sales?... :lol: ...it will still be in the millions probably even surpassing Q3, because of the holiday season...so what's gonna be your excuse?...we know they sold 40 million copies in 30 days meaning Q4 is a short month for microsoft...Q4 starts 1 of Oct and finishes 31st of dec....win 8 went on sale on the 26th of Oct...

lets face it at the world stage as far as computers are concerned, microsoft hasn't gone anywhere and apple is nowhere to be seen... :lol:

Er boomboy, Windows 8 launches and PC sales drop 21 per cent. What don't you get?

But as you say, it's Christmas soon and people will be buying iPads.

I mean those Surface things... :lol:
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby boomerang » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:01 am

Demonax wrote:
boomerang wrote:do you honestly believe Q4 2012 will have zero sales?... :lol: ...it will still be in the millions probably even surpassing Q3, because of the holiday season...so what's gonna be your excuse?...we know they sold 40 million copies in 30 days meaning Q4 is a short month for microsoft...Q4 starts 1 of Oct and finishes 31st of dec....win 8 went on sale on the 26th of Oct...

lets face it at the world stage as far as computers are concerned, microsoft hasn't gone anywhere and apple is nowhere to be seen... :lol:

Er boomboy, Windows 8 launches and PC sales drop 21 per cent. What don't you get?

But as you say, it's Christmas soon and people will be buying iPads.

I mean those Surface things... :lol:


hey fanboy....win 8 was released on OCT 26th...are you saying the last 4 days of oct sales of PCs were -21% so win 8 is to blame?...wow in 4 days the pc market lost 21%...are you for real?...why not let SIRI take over from you... :lol: ...it was invented for stupid people...

we know that MS shipped 40 million copies in 30 days which is close to the average monthly PC output...nearly 90 million computers per quarter...ask SIRI to do the math for you...

yes pc sales are down, but do not make any mistake about it Q4 will still be in the millions...and as per usual apple will not even get a mention... :lol:

all i gotta say not bad for a failing company... :lol:
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby Demonax » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:09 am

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hey fanboy....win 8 was released on OCT 26th...are you saying the last 4 days of oct sales of PCs were -21% so win 8 is to blame?...wow in 4 days the pc market lost 21%...are you for real?

we know that MS shipped 40 million copies in 30 days which is close to the average monthly PC output...

yes pc sales are down, but do not make any mistake about it Q4 will still be in the millions...and as per usual apple will not even get a mention...

Er, boomboy. You are whistling in the dark, mate. PC retail sales were down 21 per cent last month. Which means Windows 8 has not led to any turnaround in PC sales as you would normally expect. Microsoft won't say how much of those 40 million licenses bought by PC manufacturers are for machines built but not yet sold either.

Looks like people are spending their money on smartphones and tablets and not upgrading their PCs so regularly. It's part of a long term trend. That's why Microsoft has entered the tablet and mobile market - it's where the growth and profits are. And you know which company currently rakes in the bulk of the profits in the mobile and tablet market, don't you? :wink:
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby boomerang » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:46 am

Demonax wrote:
boomerang wrote:
hey fanboy....win 8 was released on OCT 26th...are you saying the last 4 days of oct sales of PCs were -21% so win 8 is to blame?...wow in 4 days the pc market lost 21%...are you for real?

we know that MS shipped 40 million copies in 30 days which is close to the average monthly PC output...

yes pc sales are down, but do not make any mistake about it Q4 will still be in the millions...and as per usual apple will not even get a mention...

Er, boomboy. You are whistling in the dark, mate. PC retail sales were down 21 per cent last month. Which means Windows 8 has not led to any turnaround in PC sales as you would normally expect. Microsoft won't say how much of those 40 million licenses bought by PC manufacturers are for machines built but not yet sold either.

Looks like people are spending their money on smartphones and tablets and not upgrading their PCs so regularly. It's part of a long term trend. That's why Microsoft has entered the tablet and mobile market - it's where the growth and profits are. And you know which company currently rakes in the bulk of the profits in the mobile and tablet market, don't you? :wink:



ok bubble boy, lets put some perspective here...

the article you posted was dated 29th 0f Non 2012...and when the article talks about last month they really are talking about the month of Oct...get it?...

now win 8 was released on the 26th of Oct, as per the article "last month"...are you saying microsoft lost 21% of the market in 4 days?... are you for fucking real?... :lol:

i have posted the sales figures of Q3 and they are down 13% to last year...with still a healthy 88 million odd computers sold...all with win xp/7/8...
let me also remind you the bulk of the win8 licenses will be going to end users and not nessesarily to corporations....we run win XP and 7 where i am...hell i run both just for the hell of it... :lol: ...the point is the majority of companies are running XP and a smaller companies win7...the computer cycle within a company used to be 3 years, today is upto 5 years...depending on leases etc...also their specific software...these companies will not be joining win8 for atleast 3 years from today...and neither these companies will be running elsewhere for the operating systems...

why not wait for the sales figures of Nov...oh i know whats the point huh?...we already know of atleast 40 million copies sold already...well the average over 3 months is 30 million per month according to studies...what does that tell you?...


you seemed to be endorsing every idiots point of view out there....or you're lacking comprehension skills...why not ask siri to read it out loud to you...you never know you might get it...that's what ipads are for aren't they?...to help the challenged... :lol:
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:53 am

87 million PCs is quite a staggering figure! :shock:

I wonder what the world-wide installed base of PCs is...?
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Re: Microsoft Has Failed

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:12 am

Demonax wrote:Er, boomboy. You are whistling in the dark, mate. PC retail sales were down 21 per cent last month. Which means Windows 8 has not led to any turnaround in PC sales as you would normally expect. Microsoft won't say how much of those 40 million licenses bought by PC manufacturers are for machines built but not yet sold either.

Looks like people are spending their money on smartphones and tablets and not upgrading their PCs so regularly. It's part of a long term trend. That's why Microsoft has entered the tablet and mobile market - it's where the growth and profits are. And you know which company currently rakes in the bulk of the profits in the mobile and tablet market, don't you? :wink:


It is amusing... :lol:

On one hand you argue that the success of the Apple brand is due to the wealth of apps in the store....

...but then you dismiss the billions of 'apps' covering every possible market area that are available at the click of a mouse for Windows...

On one hand you praise the wealth of add-on hardware for the success of the Apple brand...

... but you dismiss the billions of devices that can be connected to, or plugged-in to a PC.

You suggest that Microsoft won't be able to compete with 'free'...

...yet Microsoft has been competing with linux for years... And I suspect that linux hasn't been more successful because it lacks the wealth of drivers and 'apps' that are available (and simply installed) on Windows boxes...
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