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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:27 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Individuals have many heritages but the Cypriot nation has one characteristic. Greek.

In your head it can be whatever you imagine it to be… Pakistani even, but officially it’s Cypriot.
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:31 am

Jerry wrote:
DrCyprus wrote:If you can seperate two populations who have lived together since 1571, then you can bring together two populations who have lived seperated since 1963.

Only if Turkey does what Greece has done and gives up its claim to Cyprus.

If Turkey was to do what Greece does, Cyprus' ministry of education would be run by Ankara and we’d waving little red flags on Turkish holidays!
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:35 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:The majority Cypriots, natives, are Greek. Maybe from the Mycenaean wave or the Alexandrian wave...

Or maybe from some electromagnetic wave inhibiting some people’s common sense…
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Cap » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:43 am

it's true.
Anything and everything related to Cyprus is officially documented as Cypriot.

No matter the Greek passion on this island, it counts for nil.
Sorry to burst your bubbles, but that's how it is.

For Greece's sake, gawd forbid this island attains international recognition for anything, because the crow bar separating the 2 countries will just get bigger.
In retrospect official records will show something totally different.
The world won't look at an idealist Greek 'state' but a an official independent sovereign EU country.
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Sotos » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:08 am

Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:
DrCyprus wrote:If you can seperate two populations who have lived together since 1571, then you can bring together two populations who have lived seperated since 1963.

Only if Turkey does what Greece has done and gives up its claim to Cyprus.

If Turkey was to do what Greece does, Cyprus' ministry of education would be run by Ankara and we’d waving little red flags on Turkish holidays!


Only problem for the Turks is that we are Greek and we would never wave their flag ;) ... and by "we" I mean us the real Cypriots ... not the foreign born and raised Cypriot wannabes :P
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Sotos » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:19 am

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Individuals have many heritages but the Cypriot nation has one characteristic. Greek.

In your head it can be whatever you imagine it to be… Pakistani even, but officially it’s Cypriot.


Even officially the majority of Cypriots are Greek. Read the constitution. :!:
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:44 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Individuals have many heritages but the Cypriot nation has one characteristic. Greek.

In your head it can be whatever you imagine it to be… Pakistani even, but officially it’s Cypriot.


Even officially the majority of Cypriots are Greek. Read the constitution. :!:

IMO the RoC Constitution is too advanced for the little Choirokitian... :cry:
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:49 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Individuals have many heritages but the Cypriot nation has one characteristic. Greek.

In your head it can be whatever you imagine it to be… Pakistani even, but officially it’s Cypriot.


Even officially the majority of Cypriots are Greek. Read the constitution. :!:

It doesn’t say anywhere in the constitution that Cyprus is Greek or Turkish! :)

Like I said, that only exists in your polluted Greece-fashioned or Turkey-fashioned heads. :lol:

There’s no such thing as a “Greek Cypriot Passport” or a “Turkish Cypriot Passport”.

They both acquire a Cypriot passport and a Cypriot ID card because they are Cypriots of Cyprus and for Cyprus.

Cyprus is a UN member sovereign nation, and a EU member COUNTRY candidate,

So… GET OVER IT!

And just because your generation had their minds trashed doesn’t mean that your kids and grandkids have to suffer too! :roll:
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:56 am

Sotos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:
DrCyprus wrote:If you can seperate two populations who have lived together since 1571, then you can bring together two populations who have lived seperated since 1963.

Only if Turkey does what Greece has done and gives up its claim to Cyprus.

If Turkey was to do what Greece does, Cyprus' ministry of education would be run by Ankara and we’d waving little red flags on Turkish holidays!


Only problem for the Turks is that we are Greek and we would never wave their flag ;) ... and by "we" I mean us the real Cypriots ... not the foreign born and raised Cypriot wannabes :P

Give me your child until he is 12 and I'll make an obedient little Ataturk out of him, just as I can make an obedient little Mao out of him! :roll:

You are what you were FASHIONED to be and unless you evolved into an intelligent adult WHO CAN THINK AND REASON for himself, you will CONTINUE to be what others have fashioned you to be!
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Re: A humble proposal

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:56 am

kurupetos wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...and if the Government was only functional in Greek, is that really to the advantage of them?

why must Cyprus be Greek, why not multilingual?

Why would we need to do that? :?


here we are taptaptapping in English; and you are asking me what need?

...and how much more superior, our Greek, if we, as Cypriots endeavour to make of our Language a gateway, to the 90% whose mother tongue is not English, because as Greeks we speak many Languages.

you too are my friend kurupetos, if you love Cyprus first we are an Army, if you resist the changes of the Modern World (already gone) it is not "Greek" by any definition, but most importantly, it is Ignorance. way ahead on the conspiracies is not enough from us who take this challenge to write, there is the sense as well of where we should be. indeed, i am a supporter of a BBF, because there is a chance to define a way of life where you don't have to be "Greek" to be defined as a Cypriot who loves Cyprus, and that Greekness is sustained through everyday living by the self-representation they choose, as Persons, to represent themselves. it is a tasty choice in defending what is an ethnosphere, it does not detract from what is a vast majority, but in this Liberty, by equality, other Constituents can sustain themselves, too.

...imagine, come to Cyprus, 200 years from now. but for the little time when it was an Ottoman backwater, Cyprus remains, a crossroad for three Continents, and all their Cultures. kurupetos, i have told the Forum members stories, from my experience with the Merchant Marine and from Hospitals, my friends all Greek speaking Africans mostly in Canada, who survived, who saved themselves through Immigration (and work) from wherever they were because they had this ability, to speak Greek. who are these "Greeks" you are so proud about, in my mind misguided no better than "Turks"; save Greek for who? i don't believe that Greek is the sole domain of "Greeks", i am more proud of the Greeks who welcomed these Greeks, and i am not a "Greek" because i am a Human Being. i am a Cypriot because of my roots, grateful am i to have been introduced to my life, in a village so old, but i am homeless in Canada without it, and i don't want to be; none of that is important, is it? i know how much better Cyprus can be, unified as one, because it is an island never divided, and because its Heritance is a value to all Mankind. think again, because Cyprus will have to be bigger than, just Greek, to thrive, not just to survive, not so far in the future.

...think about it, (3) or more Official Languages, a Policy where there is complete transparency between them in Contract. and why not encourage this fluency toward other Languages, as Cypriots, and/or, as Cypriot Constituents. Greeks who speak many Languages maybe, but a Language learned and the desire to do so, much greater.
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