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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:44 pm

Maximus wrote:what would you like a link to VP?


Erdoğans demands on the Israeli deal and his demands on the EU for Visa freedom for implementing the Ankara protocol.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:what would you like a link to VP?


Erdoğans demands on the Israeli deal and his demands on the EU for Visa freedom for implementing the Ankara protocol.


With regards to energy projects with Israel,
Energy Minister Taner Yildiz told the Hurriyet : "We won’t operate a project with Israel without seeing that the conditions put by the prime minister are met".
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/ ... 3&fid=1725


with regards to visa freedom and the Ankara protocol, here is what Erdogan said exactly;
"We can sign the Ankara Protocol only if the visa dialogue process with the EU is signed at the same time,"
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/angela-merke ... y/20130226
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:42 pm

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:what would you like a link to VP?


Erdoğans demands on the Israeli deal and his demands on the EU for Visa freedom for implementing the Ankara protocol.


With regards to energy projects with Israel,
Energy Minister Taner Yildiz told the Hurriyet : "We won’t operate a project with Israel without seeing that the conditions put by the prime minister are met".
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/ ... 3&fid=1725


with regards to visa freedom and the Ankara protocol, here is what Erdogan said exactly;
"We can sign the Ankara Protocol only if the visa dialogue process with the EU is signed at the same time,"
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/angela-merke ... y/20130226


read what somebody posted to the article on Merkels visit;

what's the red herring here then ??? ..
Its very simple , people actually think that Turkey wants to be in the EU ,..
and as long as it stays like that , the Turkish PM is happy , dont give in on cyprus and we wont let you join ...
Ermmm ok .. lets stay as we are ,,
it has a booming economic country , why would it want to ruin that , why would it want its people
to have EU passports and all wonder off ..
He is playing a blinder of a hand ..

Cant agree more, only idiots cannot see what is going on.

As for the İsraeli pipelines its all bravado when the how profit is to made they will come around and sign the deal, economics is a greater tool than politics.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:20 pm

look at Erdogans face as Merkel tells him; "I must say however, that so long as the question of the Ankara protocol, which hangs closely together with Cyprus, is not solved, we will have problems in opening as many chapters as would be perhaps good and proper"

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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:22 pm

Maximus wrote:look at Erdogans face as Merkel tells him; "I must say however, that so long as the question of the Ankara protocol, which hangs closely together with Cyprus, is not solved, we will have problems in opening as many chapters as would be perhaps good and proper"

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Read between the lines shes is not saying no chapters just what is good and proper.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:what would you like a link to VP?


Erdoğans demands on the Israeli deal and his demands on the EU for Visa freedom for implementing the Ankara protocol.


With regards to energy projects with Israel,
Energy Minister Taner Yildiz told the Hurriyet : "We won’t operate a project with Israel without seeing that the conditions put by the prime minister are met".
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/ ... 3&fid=1725


with regards to visa freedom and the Ankara protocol, here is what Erdogan said exactly;
"We can sign the Ankara Protocol only if the visa dialogue process with the EU is signed at the same time,"
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/angela-merke ... y/20130226


read what somebody posted to the article on Merkels visit;

what's the red herring here then ??? ..
Its very simple , people actually think that Turkey wants to be in the EU ,..
and as long as it stays like that , the Turkish PM is happy , dont give in on cyprus and we wont let you join ...
Ermmm ok .. lets stay as we are ,,
it has a booming economic country , why would it want to ruin that , why would it want its people
to have EU passports and all wonder off ..
He is playing a blinder of a hand ..

Cant agree more, only idiots cannot see what is going on.

As for the İsraeli pipelines its all bravado when the how profit is to made they will come around and sign the deal, economics is a greater tool than politics.


Turkey has more than 50% of her trade with the EU.I accept the fact that Turkey doesn't really want to become a full member. But it is obvious that she aims at a special relation. It needs that special relation otherwise she runs the risk of losing that 50%. The least that would happen to Turkey would be losing money out of that trade. SIMPLE. So why run the risk and why end up losing money? Turkey wants desparately to open up the chapters that will give her economic profit. And guess what. ALL FROZEN :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:what would you like a link to VP?


Erdoğans demands on the Israeli deal and his demands on the EU for Visa freedom for implementing the Ankara protocol.


With regards to energy projects with Israel,
Energy Minister Taner Yildiz told the Hurriyet : "We won’t operate a project with Israel without seeing that the conditions put by the prime minister are met".
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/ ... 3&fid=1725


with regards to visa freedom and the Ankara protocol, here is what Erdogan said exactly;
"We can sign the Ankara Protocol only if the visa dialogue process with the EU is signed at the same time,"
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/angela-merke ... y/20130226


read what somebody posted to the article on Merkels visit;

what's the red herring here then ??? ..
Its very simple , people actually think that Turkey wants to be in the EU ,..
and as long as it stays like that , the Turkish PM is happy , dont give in on cyprus and we wont let you join ...
Ermmm ok .. lets stay as we are ,,
it has a booming economic country , why would it want to ruin that , why would it want its people
to have EU passports and all wonder off ..
He is playing a blinder of a hand ..

Cant agree more, only idiots cannot see what is going on.


All Erdogan & Co are doing is making Europeans even more skeptical about Turkeys agenda, and creating a lot of distrust along with this, with this desperate and bizarre persistence. Now, Erdogan wants visa free travel so his people can freely wonder off; like europeans. It's absurd.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:10 am

Mr Bagis now says “I’ll call your bluff. The Turkish Republic will open its sea ports, airports, and air space, if Lufthansa embarks on an expedition to Ercan Airport,” Egemen Bağış told reporters yesterday, citing Merkel’s call on Turkey for progress in implementing the Ankara Protocol.

Bagis interpret's the accession process and what is expected from Turkey, which she knew about since the beginning as 'bluffs'. what a joker he is.

The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. :lol
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:23 am

Maximus wrote:Mr Bagis now says “I’ll call your bluff. The Turkish Republic will open its sea ports, airports, and air space, if Lufthansa embarks on an expedition to Ercan Airport,” Egemen Bağış told reporters yesterday, citing Merkel’s call on Turkey for progress in implementing the Ankara Protocol.

Bagis interpret's the accession process and what is expected from Turkey, which she knew about since the beginning as 'bluffs'. what a joker he is.

The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. :lol


For the EU, it's not a matter of "Lets make a deal" with Bagis the fool. Ankara Protocol has ZERO relevance to do with the north and the EU what so ever. As far as the EU is concerned, the north's question has been dealt with back in 2004. It has been accepted into the EU as part of the whole island of Cyprus, and as soon as occupation of the north by Turkey is over and the island is unified once again, then the EU will treat the whole island as one and treat it the way it does with the rest of the RoC today and not before. Simple!
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:09 am

Turkey is looking for a one way psuedo-membership into the union Kikapu. Sooner or later, Bagis will start negotiating a bizonal bicommunal federation with "political equality" between turks and europeans because Turkey doesnt need the EU, the EU needs Turkey. :?

what should be simple and straight forward becomes a sour mess and a sign of what to expect if Turkey is allowed to join the EU anytime soon.
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