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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:07 pm

Maximus wrote:yes Bill,

Mr fule has been a little slow on the uptake regarding Turkish membership, but patient, he is.

Its bizarre that Turkish officials are calling 'bluffs' and putting conditions on their accession process when they should be implementing and doing what they are obliged to do as part of the process they signed up for. I wonder how many times things have to backfire before Turkey 'gets it' or gets stuffed!


Think even the ever-patient Mr Fule has finally run out of patience file with regards to the Ankara Protocol and the belligerent arrogance of Turkey towards the Republic.

From the uncharacteristic firmness of the language he used today (reported in the Fam Gaz)...

... He's finally had enough of trying to defend the stand-up comedy act of Bagis the Clown.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:10 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:yes Bill,

Mr fule has been a little slow on the uptake regarding Turkish membership, but patient, he is.

Its bizarre that Turkish officials are calling 'bluffs' and putting conditions on their accession process when they should be implementing and doing what they are obliged to do as part of the process they signed up for. I wonder how many times things have to backfire before Turkey 'gets it' or gets stuffed!


Where in the protocol does it state that Turkey is oblidged to solve the Cyprus problem?


Are you completely oblivious as to what the Ankara Protocol is VP...??? ... as you are in practically everything else.

Is that the secret of your Intransigence, to feign absolute ignorance or some kind of stupidity...???

... so let us remind you that the Ankara Protocol is an Unconditional Undertaking made six years ago by Turkey to open up its ports and air-space to the Republic's ships and planes.

So are you, rather like Turkey and Bagis the Clown, still having trouble understanding what an Unconditional Undertaking is...??? ...!!!



And you continue to be a nosey stupid bastard who meddles in other peoples business, go home foreigner.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:20 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:yes Bill,

Mr fule has been a little slow on the uptake regarding Turkish membership, but patient, he is.

Its bizarre that Turkish officials are calling 'bluffs' and putting conditions on their accession process when they should be implementing and doing what they are obliged to do as part of the process they signed up for. I wonder how many times things have to backfire before Turkey 'gets it' or gets stuffed!


Where in the protocol does it state that Turkey is oblidged to solve the Cyprus problem?


Are you completely oblivious as to what the Ankara Protocol is VP...??? ... as you are in practically everything else.

Is that the secret of your Intransigence, to feign absolute ignorance or some kind of stupidity...???

... so let us remind you that the Ankara Protocol is an Unconditional Undertaking made six years ago by Turkey to open up its ports and air-space to the Republic's ships and planes.

So are you, rather like Turkey and Bagis the Clown, still having trouble understanding what an Unconditional Undertaking is...??? ...!!!


YES. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:29 pm

You seem to have forgotten this declaration:

In July 2005, Turkey signed a protocol extending its customs union to the EU-10 states, but at the same time Ankara issued a declaration saying that its signature did not mean it had recognised the Republic of Cyprus. Turkey also refused to open its ports and airports to Cyprus.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:You seem to have forgotten this declaration:

In July 2005, Turkey signed a protocol extending its customs union to the EU-10 states, but at the same time Ankara issued a declaration saying that its signature did not mean it had recognised the Republic of Cyprus. Turkey also refused to open its ports and airports to Cyprus.


...link please.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:39 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You seem to have forgotten this declaration:

In July 2005, Turkey signed a protocol extending its customs union to the EU-10 states, but at the same time Ankara issued a declaration saying that its signature did not mean it had recognised the Republic of Cyprus. Turkey also refused to open its ports and airports to Cyprus.


...link please.


Google it: Ankara Protocol Turkey reject Cyprus
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:54 pm

VP, you are correct again. Turkey has maintained a consistent stance throughout the process on this issue.

It's Cyprus and the European Union's problem for allowing things to develop and progress like this. The Turks will just continue to make a mockery of the whole process [va thixouv to nouv tous].

The question is, what is the European union going to do about it?
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:59 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Hang on a minute boys... let's be clear please... there is no negotiating cos Turkey undertook to implement the Ankara Protocol SIX flipping years ago...!!!

... and it did so without any conditions attached, end of.

... even Enlargement Commissioner Mr Fule seems to have run out of patience with Turkey and he is reported today in the Fam Gazette as insisting that Turkey open up its ports and to normalise its relations with CY... no ifs or buts...!!!

And they want Cyprus to sign a Solution with turkey when they can't even live up to the Ankara protocol,. 100,000 Eu fully armed troops would help them somewhat in keeping to their agreements
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:02 pm

21 September 2005: In response to Turkey’s declaration, the EU adopts a declaration that stresses that “Turkey must apply the protocol fully to all EU Member States.” It reminds that “Recognition of all Member States is a necessary component of the accession process [and that] accordingly, the EU underlines the importance it attaches to the normalization of relations between Turkey and all EU Member States, as soon as possible.” Turkey’s progress in these areas will be evaluated in 2006 during a specific meeting.


...for the recordhttp://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/spip.php?page=article_imprim&id_article=10190
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:07 pm

Maximus wrote:VP, you are correct again. Turkey has maintained a consistent stance throughout the process on this issue.

It's Cyprus and the European Union's problem for allowing things to develop and progress like this. The Turks will just continue to make a mockery of the whole process [va thixouv to nouv tous].

he question is, what is the European union going to do about it?


I agree.
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