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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:10 pm

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bill cobbett wrote:Hang on a minute boys... let's be clear please... there is no negotiating cos Turkey undertook to implement the Ankara Protocol SIX flipping years ago...!!!

... and it did so without any conditions attached, end of.

... even Enlargement Commissioner Mr Fule seems to have run out of patience with Turkey and he is reported today in the Fam Gazette as insisting that Turkey open up its ports and to normalise its relations with CY... no ifs or buts...!!!

And they want Cyprus to sign a Solution with turkey when they can't even live up to the Ankara protocol,. 100,000 Eu fully armed troops would help them somewhat in keeping to their agreements


Let me ask you a question, what do you think it will mean if Turkey applies the Ankara protocol.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:37 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Hang on a minute boys... let's be clear please... there is no negotiating cos Turkey undertook to implement the Ankara Protocol SIX flipping years ago...!!!

... and it did so without any conditions attached, end of.

... even Enlargement Commissioner Mr Fule seems to have run out of patience with Turkey and he is reported today in the Fam Gazette as insisting that Turkey open up its ports and to normalise its relations with CY... no ifs or buts...!!!

And they want Cyprus to sign a Solution with turkey when they can't even live up to the Ankara protocol,. 100,000 Eu fully armed troops would help them somewhat in keeping to their agreements


Let me ask you a question, what do you think it will mean if Turkey applies the Ankara protocol.


Nothing, she will most likely violate the protocol in the not too distant future.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:35 am

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Hang on a minute boys... let's be clear please... there is no negotiating cos Turkey undertook to implement the Ankara Protocol SIX flipping years ago...!!!

... and it did so without any conditions attached, end of.

... even Enlargement Commissioner Mr Fule seems to have run out of patience with Turkey and he is reported today in the Fam Gazette as insisting that Turkey open up its ports and to normalise its relations with CY... no ifs or buts...!!!

And they want Cyprus to sign a Solution with turkey when they can't even live up to the Ankara protocol,. 100,000 Eu fully armed troops would help them somewhat in keeping to their agreements


Let me ask you a question, what do you think it will mean if Turkey applies the Ankara protocol.


Nothing, she will most likely violate the protocol in the not too distant future.


Wrong.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:17 am

go ahead, please give us the asnwer.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:24 am

Maximus wrote:go ahead, please give us the asnwer.


Its means recognition of the "RoC" in it current form, which Turkey without the TC factor will never do, this she made very clear when she signed the Ankara protocol, so dont wait for Turkey to just go ahead and apply the Ankara protocol without conditions.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:50 am

Meanwhile the EU pays us about 100 million per year as compensation because Turkey refuses to apply the Ankara Protocol.
http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/mfa2006.nsf/c ... yprus17_en
Sooner or later the EU will force Turkey to pay all those amounts back to her from 2004 upto date +interest. That would be roughly about 1 billion. So I say, let Turkey accumulate debts. Sooner or later she will PAY :D :D :D :D
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:55 am

Viewpoint wrote:You seem to have forgotten this declaration:

In July 2005, Turkey signed a protocol extending its customs union to the EU-10 states, but at the same time Ankara issued a declaration saying that its signature did not mean it had recognised the Republic of Cyprus. Turkey also refused to open its ports and airports to Cyprus.


So are you saying that you can sign a document, and then read a piece of paper saying that you are not bound (fully) by what you signed?
Is this the Turkish logic? :mrgreen:
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:57 am

Maximus wrote:VP, you are correct again. Turkey has maintained a consistent stance throughout the process on this issue.

It's Cyprus and the European Union's problem for allowing things to develop and progress like this. The Turks will just continue to make a mockery of the whole process [va thixouv to nouv tous].

The question is, what is the European union going to do about it?


The European Union is collecting tramp cards my friend. They are not stupid. Sooner or later Turkey will pay back the EU + Interest. :wink:
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Maximus » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:43 pm

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Maximus wrote:VP, you are correct again. Turkey has maintained a consistent stance throughout the process on this issue.

It's Cyprus and the European Union's problem for allowing things to develop and progress like this. The Turks will just continue to make a mockery of the whole process [va thixouv to nouv tous].

The question is, what is the European union going to do about it?


The European Union is collecting tramp cards my friend. They are not stupid. Sooner or later Turkey will pay back the EU + Interest. :wink:


I hope I live to see the day Pyrpolizer but Turkey has never been brought to acocunt for any of her injustices yet.
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Re: Zaman's hypocrisy

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:00 pm

Maximus wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Maximus wrote:VP, you are correct again. Turkey has maintained a consistent stance throughout the process on this issue.

It's Cyprus and the European Union's problem for allowing things to develop and progress like this. The Turks will just continue to make a mockery of the whole process [va thixouv to nouv tous].

The question is, what is the European union going to do about it?


The European Union is collecting tramp cards my friend. They are not stupid. Sooner or later Turkey will pay back the EU + Interest. :wink:


I hope I live to see the day Pyrpolizer but Turkey has never been brought to acocunt for any of her injustices yet.


For the moment Turkey pays indirectly. This means she is losing money for having her chapters frozen.
Unfortunately the same happens to the Kibrislis today. They pay indirectly, by losing money that otherwise they would get a share from. To start with, they are losing their share from the tourists that arrive here. Only recently they started getting some crumbs, but they are still losing.
That's why some Kypreoi don't really want the Cyprus problem be solved...
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