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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:14 pm

rw are you saying there will never be any water delivered.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby halil » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:34 pm

Lordo wrote:rw are you saying there will never be any water delivered.


Lordo at least asbestos pipes are replaced....new water tanks constructed....new motorways constructed ...these are also new gains if there is no water .....new generating plants are arrived.....so we are happy ....let them to talk from behind.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:54 pm

no i am not saying that the water will or will not be delivered. like halil, i am suggesting that the project does not have the derivatives it could if it was motivated by something more than a bunch of "Turks" who want to score points against the "Greeks" they've framed as their adversaries. Money is buying this project but one can hardly call it Turkish, or a "Turkish" achievement.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:40 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...seen it.

Is there nothing Academic where Universities have been involved? Is there no opposition, at least, no debate, as to alternatives, the costs and benefits? This is my biggest disappointment with this project, where it has failed the most is its transparency, it appears to have absolutely no value, other than the political benefit for propaganda.


RW that's the reason this topic is titled "the propaganda regime".
I participated to this topic from the very beginning and came to the conclusion that even if this project ever materializes the water is going to cost the very minimum 2 Euros per ton.-about 0.50 Euros per ton higher than desalination plans.
Imo the pipe will never be constructed and they are going to fill the dam at Panagra using tankers.The water will stay there for emergency purposes.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:45 pm

halil wrote:
Lordo wrote:rw are you saying there will never be any water delivered.


Lordo at least asbestos pipes are replaced....new water tanks constructed....new motorways constructed ...these are also new gains if there is no water .....new generating plants are arrived.....so we are happy ....let them to talk from behind.


Yes but the question here is the temin su projesi not about highways and replacing asbestos pipes. So who is talking from behind? And where are those pictures you promised??
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:48 pm

you are talking nonsense again pyrpo.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:29 pm

Lordo wrote:you are talking nonsense again pyrpo.


The one who is talking nonsense is the one who after 161 pages did not bother to look at the design of the project and thinks the water will flow directly from the AlanKopru (?) dam to the Panagra dam via gravity. This is impossible and the Turks know it. The elevation of the dam in Turkey is such that is enough to explode any type of pipe used. Instead they will bring the water down to a town near the sea and then pump it.Look at the designs and their advertisements.
The other guy who talks nonsense is the one who doesn't know the cost of electricity to pump water from Panagra over the mountains through Kionelli to Nicosia.Elevation difference 300m if I remember well
And the 3rd guy who talks nonsense is the one who never bought a small pump to send water to his roof which is only 3 meters high and then check how much his electricity meter charged him for just one ton.

2 Euros per ton is the minimum you are going to pay the Turks , but you won't pay anything because they are going to fill the dam at Panagra with ships and have it there for emergencies or /military reasons.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:56 pm

all theory.....in theory an elephant can walk through a wall....Like RW has said this is all propaganda that keeps the attention of the tc's away from the oil reserves of the ROC....
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:17 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:you are talking nonsense again pyrpo.


The one who is talking nonsense is the one who after 161 pages did not bother to look at the design of the project and thinks the water will flow directly from the AlanKopru (?) dam to the Panagra dam via gravity. This is impossible and the Turks know it. The elevation of the dam in Turkey is such that is enough to explode any type of pipe used. Instead they will bring the water down to a town near the sea and then pump it.Look at the designs and their advertisements.
The other guy who talks nonsense is the one who doesn't know the cost of electricity to pump water from Panagra over the mountains through Kionelli to Nicosia.Elevation difference 300m if I remember well
And the 3rd guy who talks nonsense is the one who never bought a small pump to send water to his roof which is only 3 meters high and then check how much his electricity meter charged him for just one ton.

2 Euros per ton is the minimum you are going to pay the Turks , but you won't pay anything because they are going to fill the dam at Panagra with ships and have it there for emergencies or /military reasons.

more nonsense

terggish water always flows down the hill. greek water to stubborn refuses and flows uphill.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Nikitas » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:59 am

"there is jack shit left for the tcs. "

Stumped by such eloquence, but I shall persevere to respond.

Partition does come with some disadvantages, you ended up with the drier part of the island. Your choice. Lump it.

The dams are not enough, hence the new desal plants in the south. Licensing golf courses is dependent on a desal plant being present. Car parks I do not know about, never mentioned them anyway.

The EU was ready to finance two desal plants in the trunc, but you refused. You refuse you do end up with jack shit. Which I suspect is what you will end up with when this pipe is complete because the Turks are not aiming to sell you the water. It is a trial run to see if they can do it. Then they see the GCs and the Israelis as more profitable milk cows.

Why dont you and Halil make any comment about Davut's offers of water to the GCs? There is no denying he made them they were transmitted live during his last visit to Athens in December.
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