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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:03 pm

cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.


One idea might be to go to a coffee shop or two in the refugee estates to be found in the main cities in the government-controlled parts of the island - most of the people there will have left property behind in the north. You could do something similar by visiting coffee shops in villages where refugees have been settled in the north.
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:11 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.


One idea might be to go to a coffee shop or two in the refugee estates to be found in the main cities in the government-controlled parts of the island - most of the people there will have left property behind in the north. You could do something similar by visiting coffee shops in villages where refugees have been settled in the north.


Tim, the TCs who have gone to the north are NOT "refugees". The RoC has not made them "refugees". It is the country they want to be represented by that they have followed, voluntarily.
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:59 pm

B25 wrote:
cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.

There 200,000 of them who want their properties back. Perhaps you would like to ask anyone if them. Then ask the Turkish authorities why they haven't return the lands as called for in umpteen UN Resolutions. Then ask the corrupt ECHR that gave power to the illegal occupation regime to decide on each persons property. Jesus, it is like putting the rapist in the judges seat to hear his victims case FFS.
As a journalist your research sucks.


Nice post.
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:58 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.


One idea might be to go to a coffee shop or two in the refugee estates to be found in the main cities in the government-controlled parts of the island - most of the people there will have left property behind in the north. You could do something similar by visiting coffee shops in villages where refugees have been settled in the north.


Tim, the TCs who have gone to the north are NOT "refugees". The RoC has not made them "refugees". It is the country they want to be represented by that they have followed, voluntarily.


As if they had a choice!

As far as they were concerned, they had 2 choices. Abandon their villages and homes and get behind the Turkish Lines, or possibly face Nicos Samaras and his gang of thugs and killing squads that went through Tohni and Sandalar, to round up all TC males onto buses to be taken to a killing field for execution after they dug out their mass grave.

They are refugees alright. There are about 45,000 TC refugees according to the UN.

There was suffering on their side as well!
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Sotos » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:34 am

Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.


One idea might be to go to a coffee shop or two in the refugee estates to be found in the main cities in the government-controlled parts of the island - most of the people there will have left property behind in the north. You could do something similar by visiting coffee shops in villages where refugees have been settled in the north.


Tim, the TCs who have gone to the north are NOT "refugees". The RoC has not made them "refugees". It is the country they want to be represented by that they have followed, voluntarily.


As if they had a choice!

As far as they were concerned, they had 2 choices. Abandon their villages and homes and get behind the Turkish Lines, or possibly face Nicos Samaras and his gang of thugs and killing squads that went through Tohni and Sandalar, to round up all TC males onto buses to be taken to a killing field for execution after they dug out their mass grave.

They are refugees alright. There are about 45,000 TC refugees according to the UN.

There was suffering on their side as well!


The TCs wanted partition since the 1950s. What happened is what they WANTED to happen all along... and it is what they continue to want. Otherwise the solution would be easy. We get our properties back in the north and they get theirs back in the south. THEY don't accept this.
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:36 am

Nicos Samaras and his gang of thugs and killing squads that went through Tohni and Sandalar



..its Nicos Sampson, even Haggis Stud would know. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:55 am

Oceanside50 wrote:
Nicos Samaras and his gang of thugs and killing squads that went through Tohni and Sandalar



..its Nicos Sampson, even Haggis Stud would know. :roll: :roll:


I know you friggin dipshit!
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:57 am

Sotos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.


One idea might be to go to a coffee shop or two in the refugee estates to be found in the main cities in the government-controlled parts of the island - most of the people there will have left property behind in the north. You could do something similar by visiting coffee shops in villages where refugees have been settled in the north.


Tim, the TCs who have gone to the north are NOT "refugees". The RoC has not made them "refugees". It is the country they want to be represented by that they have followed, voluntarily.


As if they had a choice!

As far as they were concerned, they had 2 choices. Abandon their villages and homes and get behind the Turkish Lines, or possibly face Nicos Samaras and his gang of thugs and killing squads that went through Tohni and Sandalar, to round up all TC males onto buses to be taken to a killing field for execution after they dug out their mass grave.

They are refugees alright. There are about 45,000 TC refugees according to the UN.

There was suffering on their side as well!


The TCs wanted partition since the 1950s. What happened is what they WANTED to happen all along... and it is what they continue to want. Otherwise the solution would be easy. We get our properties back in the north and they get theirs back in the south. THEY don't accept this.


That is not the thesis adhered to by just about every single Nation in the world including the UN!

It is only bloody natural that they would want partition! It's not as if we gave them a chance or the opportunity to stand by the RoC!
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby erolz66 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:02 am

Sotos wrote:The TCs wanted partition since the 1950s. What happened is what they WANTED to happen all along... and it is what they continue to want. Otherwise the solution would be easy. We get our properties back in the north and they get theirs back in the south. THEY don't accept this.


For most ordinary TC they did not want partition. They wanted to not have ENOSIS forced upon them against their will and with no effective say in this monumental decision that would fundamentally affect their lives in their own shared homeland. Without ENOSIS the solution would have been easy. ENOSIS and the way it was pursued is what drove more and more ordinary TC to desire partition.
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Re: Selling Turkish Owned Property in Cyprus

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:06 am

Paphitis wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
cbouissou wrote:Hello,

i'm a journalist based in Cyprus and i'm interested in that topic. I've discussed it with a few "officials" but i'd really like to talk to people 'really' confronted to the problem i.e. having a property in the north that they want - or don't want - to sell. Do you know anyone in that situation ? Thanks in advance for any kind of help. C.


One idea might be to go to a coffee shop or two in the refugee estates to be found in the main cities in the government-controlled parts of the island - most of the people there will have left property behind in the north. You could do something similar by visiting coffee shops in villages where refugees have been settled in the north.


Tim, the TCs who have gone to the north are NOT "refugees". The RoC has not made them "refugees". It is the country they want to be represented by that they have followed, voluntarily.


As if they had a choice!

As far as they were concerned, they had 2 choices. Abandon their villages and homes and get behind the Turkish Lines, or possibly face Nicos Samaras and his gang of thugs and killing squads that went through Tohni and Sandalar, to round up all TC males onto buses to be taken to a killing field for execution after they dug out their mass grave.

They are refugees alright. There are about 45,000 TC refugees according to the UN.

There was suffering on their side as well!


I was told the following story by a Turkish Cypriot. They lived in a predominantly Greek Cypriot village in Larnaca province in which there were also two Turkish Cypriot families. This was (and still is) a rock-solid communist village and they should have been safe there. When the troubles started, the other villagers pleaded with them not to flee and said they would make sure that no harm came their way. His family decided to flee, the other family stayed. The head of the other family was murdered soon after - not by his fellow villagers, it must be said. The question he asked me was, "Who was right?" In my book, anybody who flees for their life is a refuge, irrespective of their ethnicity, religion, native language, skin colour or whatever else you wish to base irrational prejudice on.

I am fairly sure that this story is true because a few years ago CyBC's Biz/Emeis programme interviewed members of the other family, the one that stayed to see the head of the household and main breadwinner murdered, on a visit to their old village. They were most insistent that they did not blame the Greek Cypriot community as whole for this incident, but considered it to be an act of murder committed by criminals.
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