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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:55 am

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What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

Seems to me, it's outside forces that have had their eyes on the Gas shares and have concocted this scheme to get their hands on Gas ownership. From Putin to the EU - they are juggling between them to get the maximum.


What nonsense! It is the Cypriot government that is 'throwing in gas shares as a sweetener'. There is no requirement by, EU, Russian or any other country, to do this. But, if the shares are such an outstandingly good bargain, why not just sell them on the open market and avoid all this fuss and problems for those who need the money now, not years in the future?

This is just the standard GC response to any problem that they have brought upon themselves - find a foreigner (preferably foreigners) who is conspiring against poor little Cyprus.


And they(foreigners) do conspire and have many many times in the past.....now I understand why I'm so hardheaded
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:34 am

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

What's the difference?


Banks are essentially privately owned or sale-able capitalist ventures. Cyprus is a war-torn country that needs its freedom back first and foremost. The priority should be to use any natural resources (belonging to the RoC) for the common good of the people - i.e. to restore democracy over the whole island under the RoC.
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:38 am

observer wrote:
What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

Seems to me, it's outside forces that have had their eyes on the Gas shares and have concocted this scheme to get their hands on Gas ownership. From Putin to the EU - they are juggling between them to get the maximum.


What nonsense! It is the Cypriot government that is 'throwing in gas shares as a sweetener'. There is no requirement by, EU, Russian or any other country, to do this. But, if the shares are such an outstandingly good bargain, why not just sell them on the open market and avoid all this fuss and problems for those who need the money now, not years in the future?

This is just the standard GC response to any problem that they have brought upon themselves - find a foreigner (preferably foreigners) who is conspiring against poor little Cyprus.


They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:44 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:
What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

Seems to me, it's outside forces that have had their eyes on the Gas shares and have concocted this scheme to get their hands on Gas ownership. From Putin to the EU - they are juggling between them to get the maximum.


What nonsense! It is the Cypriot government that is 'throwing in gas shares as a sweetener'. There is no requirement by, EU, Russian or any other country, to do this. But, if the shares are such an outstandingly good bargain, why not just sell them on the open market and avoid all this fuss and problems for those who need the money now, not years in the future?

This is just the standard GC response to any problem that they have brought upon themselves - find a foreigner (preferably foreigners) who is conspiring against poor little Cyprus.


They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...


But Cyprus IS on the grab without offering anything (of any real value) in return and faces world-wide criticism because of it....
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:46 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:
What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

Seems to me, it's outside forces that have had their eyes on the Gas shares and have concocted this scheme to get their hands on Gas ownership. From Putin to the EU - they are juggling between them to get the maximum.


What nonsense! It is the Cypriot government that is 'throwing in gas shares as a sweetener'. There is no requirement by, EU, Russian or any other country, to do this. But, if the shares are such an outstandingly good bargain, why not just sell them on the open market and avoid all this fuss and problems for those who need the money now, not years in the future?

This is just the standard GC response to any problem that they have brought upon themselves - find a foreigner (preferably foreigners) who is conspiring against poor little Cyprus.


They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...


But Cyprus IS on the grab without offering anything (of any real value) in return and faces world-wide criticism because of it....


You're the only one who thinks so.
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:17 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:
What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

Seems to me, it's outside forces that have had their eyes on the Gas shares and have concocted this scheme to get their hands on Gas ownership. From Putin to the EU - they are juggling between them to get the maximum.


What nonsense! It is the Cypriot government that is 'throwing in gas shares as a sweetener'. There is no requirement by, EU, Russian or any other country, to do this. But, if the shares are such an outstandingly good bargain, why not just sell them on the open market and avoid all this fuss and problems for those who need the money now, not years in the future?

This is just the standard GC response to any problem that they have brought upon themselves - find a foreigner (preferably foreigners) who is conspiring against poor little Cyprus.


They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...


But Cyprus IS on the grab without offering anything (of any real value) in return and faces world-wide criticism because of it....


You're the only one who thinks so.



Hahahahahaha! You should check the World-wide headlines that label this act as pure and simple THEFT!
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:23 pm


You don't need any economics to grasp what Europe and the IMF have just done to the Cypriots. Anybody can imagine how awful it would be to wake up one morning and discover that their savings have just been raided.

Over the previous four "rescues" of bust eurozone countries, the details have always been swaddled in technicalities: debt restructuring this, fiscal consolidation that. With Cyprus, however, an immediate tax of up to 10% on savings accounts needs little explaining. Officials may euphemise it as a bail-in but everyone else will agree with yesterday's Daily Mail headline: it's a bank robbery.
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby apc2010 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:35 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:
What concerns me is that they are throwing in the Gas shares as a sweetener to save the banks, when I wanted it so save Cyprus!

Seems to me, it's outside forces that have had their eyes on the Gas shares and have concocted this scheme to get their hands on Gas ownership. From Putin to the EU - they are juggling between them to get the maximum.


What nonsense! It is the Cypriot government that is 'throwing in gas shares as a sweetener'. There is no requirement by, EU, Russian or any other country, to do this. But, if the shares are such an outstandingly good bargain, why not just sell them on the open market and avoid all this fuss and problems for those who need the money now, not years in the future?

This is just the standard GC response to any problem that they have brought upon themselves - find a foreigner (preferably foreigners) who is conspiring against poor little Cyprus.


They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...


But Cyprus IS on the grab without offering anything (of any real value) in return and faces world-wide criticism because of it....


You're the only one who thinks so.


No ,I think the world's media also agrees, along with most economists.....
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:44 pm

apc2010 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...


But Cyprus IS on the grab without offering anything (of any real value) in return and faces world-wide criticism because of it....


You're the only one who thinks so.


No ,I think the world's media also agrees, along with most economists.....


No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:



The Rape Of Cyprus By The European Union & The IMF


I have been watching articles pour forth about Cyprus all weekend. I am almost as aggravated with the majority of them as I am with what took place. People are dancing around the edges while the propaganda machines of Europe are churning out the usual bunk.

Let's get some things straight and look what has happened directly in the face. There was no tax on the bank accounts in Cyprus. There still is no tax; the Cyprus Parliament has not passed it and will not vote on it until tomorrow so whatever action takes place it is retroactive. Next, this was not enacted by Cyprus. The people from Nicosia did not go to the Summit and ask to have the bank accounts in their country minimized to help pay the bills. Far from it; the nations of Europe, Germany, France, the Netherlands and the rest, demanded that this take place, a "fait accompli," the President of Cyprus said and Europe annexes Cyprus. Let's be quite clear; the European Union has confiscated the private property of the citizens in Cyprus without debate, legislation or Parliamentary agreement.
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Re: Bail-out agreed!

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:04 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
They'r obviously not allowed to sell them on the open market until various political deals have been struck.

The sweeteners are from the government for damage limitation - we can hardly have Cyprus looking like it's on the grab without giving anything back in return. But the EU and Russia are orchestrating who gets what ...


But Cyprus IS on the grab without offering anything (of any real value) in return and faces world-wide criticism because of it....


You're the only one who thinks so.


No ,I think the world's media also agrees, along with most economists.....


No - I disagree. The usual racists will try and blame Cyprus. But most rational people know it's the EU at the bottom of this:



The Rape Of Cyprus By The European Union & The IMF


I have been watching articles pour forth about Cyprus all weekend. I am almost as aggravated with the majority of them as I am with what took place. People are dancing around the edges while the propaganda machines of Europe are churning out the usual bunk.

Let's get some things straight and look what has happened directly in the face. There was no tax on the bank accounts in Cyprus. There still is no tax; the Cyprus Parliament has not passed it and will not vote on it until tomorrow so whatever action takes place it is retroactive. Next, this was not enacted by Cyprus. The people from Nicosia did not go to the Summit and ask to have the bank accounts in their country minimized to help pay the bills. Far from it; the nations of Europe, Germany, France, the Netherlands and the rest, demanded that this take place, a "fait accompli," the President of Cyprus said and Europe annexes Cyprus. Let's be quite clear; the European Union has confiscated the private property of the citizens in Cyprus without debate, legislation or Parliamentary agreement.
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Then 99.9% of the World's media and economists are not rational...
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