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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:22 am

observer wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Farage is a europhobe who wants to see the Euro fail because the UK cannot be a part of it. As a typical politician, with excellent rhetorical skills, he jumps on the bandwagon, not to (honestly) support Cyprus but to bash the Euro and cause hysteria to try and help bring it down.


No reason why he should support Cyprus - note the UK in UKIP - but real reason why he shouldn't support the Euro. It is a politician's fraud, without any economic sense.
The strength of the currency that a country uses depends on the strength of that country's economy. Could you seriously believe that the Cypriot economy is as strong as the German economy? As matters stand, there will be a never ending series of crisis as weaker economies ask the stronger economies to shovel 'loans' their way. The stronger countries, especially Germany, will get tired of this and demand to control the economy of weaker countries. This in turn will mean political control. Now, let me tell you about colonialism ......


Exactly!
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:42 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:The EZ should have known better than to mess with Islanders.

My Cypriot friends were having a huge party when I phoned them yesterday. They’ve been through a lot. They’ve seen their island carved into two and their friends and relatives go missing. They’ve lost their houses and their fields. But they are a strong society and they’ve learnt to watch out for each other. They are not stupid. They are very frightened of forces they have unleashed. But they have learnt to be independent and they are quietly confident that they can ride whatever storm is coming.

Little Cyprus. Who would have thought it? The Achilles Heel of Europe


Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/03/ ... xeHjXTZ.99

interesting analogy, considering it was a wound in the Achilles heel that killed the mighty warrior....and Cyprus (the Achilles Heel) has a wound....
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:26 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:The EZ should have known better than to mess with Islanders.

My Cypriot friends were having a huge party when I phoned them yesterday. They’ve been through a lot. They’ve seen their island carved into two and their friends and relatives go missing. They’ve lost their houses and their fields. But they are a strong society and they’ve learnt to watch out for each other. They are not stupid. They are very frightened of forces they have unleashed. But they have learnt to be independent and they are quietly confident that they can ride whatever storm is coming.

Little Cyprus. Who would have thought it? The Achilles Heel of Europe


Read more at http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/03/ ... xeHjXTZ.99

interesting analogy, considering it was a wound in the Achilles heel that killed the mighty warrior....and Cyprus (the Achilles Heel) has a wound....


The "mighty warrior" is the EU. The "tender heel" that has been wounded is Cyprus. Now do you get it?
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:33 pm

observer wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Farage is a europhobe who wants to see the Euro fail because the UK cannot be a part of it. As a typical politician, with excellent rhetorical skills, he jumps on the bandwagon, not to (honestly) support Cyprus but to bash the Euro and cause hysteria to try and help bring it down.


No reason why he should support Cyprus - note the UK in UKIP - but real reason why he shouldn't support the Euro. It is a politician's fraud, without any economic sense.
The strength of the currency that a country uses depends on the strength of that country's economy. Could you seriously believe that the Cypriot economy is as strong as the German economy? As matters stand, there will be a never ending series of crisis as weaker economies ask the stronger economies to shovel 'loans' their way. The stronger countries, especially Germany, will get tired of this and demand to control the economy of weaker countries. This in turn will mean political control. Now, let me tell you about colonialism ......


I agree, he doesn't have any personal gripes with Cyprus. but most people wouldn't go out of their way to support anything but their most burning passions. Cyprus is not his burning passion, so when he supports Cyprus it's in the context of using it as an example to bash the EU. Same with Nick Griffins; he likes Cyprus, but has no reason to waste time supporting Cyprus except in the context of his burning passion against the Muslimisation of Britain. In this regard he has been supportive of Cyprus as an example of what can happen in the UK if 80 Million Turks get free access.

As for your second point; economic strength varies from decade to decade. Germany is fighting right now because it has had a huge financial down-turn and they are looking at different means (using what 'might' they still possess) to help themselves first and foremost. On the other hand - if untouched by the weapons of the Germans in this financial war - Cyprus was actually still on the up.

However, I still believe there is a future for the EU even if it has been sidelined by Bankers. Cyprus has hopefully drawn attention to this weakness at the heart of the great ideology which is the EU. Cyprus and Greece still need a united Europe. As does Germany if it is not going to do in this century what it did twice before (since it still clearly has vaulting ambitions) last century.
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby observer » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:02 pm

You’ve obviously read Farage’s comments differently to me. In his reported comments he doesn’t mention Cyprus by name. I assume that he’s indifferent to where the proposed theft of people’s savings occurs, only that it is done to support the immense folly of the euro.

You are correct that a nation’s fortunes may change over the decades. Were the positions reversed, unlikely but nothing is impossible, would the people of Cyprus be any happier than the Germans are now to see billions of their money sent off to support broken economies in Germany, France, Netherlands etc. It can’t be a coincidence that the Eurozone has crisis after crisis. With such a wide range of different economies, and each government trying to do the best for its own electorate, as elected politicians should, trying to pretend that all of them have the same economic conditions all the time is little short of lunacy.
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby kurupetos » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:26 pm

IMO, to keep generalizing in this way is ridiculous. The problem with Cyprus was the incompetent Christofias's government.

Hopefully this will be a lesson for the current government and the people's choice in future elections.
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:31 pm

observer wrote:You’ve obviously read Farage’s comments differently to me. In his reported comments he doesn’t mention Cyprus by name.


Then I suggest you listen to the youtube posted at the start of this thread. He mentions Cyprus by name many times. There are many other youtubes of speeches where he mentions Cyprus.

Farage's (the UK's, actually) problem is that they did not get into the EU at the very start. By the time they joined, France and Germany had come to dominate the sphere so much that it has been difficult for the UK to play second fiddle.

So the UK wants "OUT" of the EU because they want to be in Germany's position; calling the shots themselves!

[These countries are not team players, I'm afraid. They are still barbarians. :wink: ]
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby danny1234 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:17 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
observer wrote:You’ve obviously read Farage’s comments differently to me. In his reported comments he doesn’t mention Cyprus by name.


Then I suggest you listen to the youtube posted at the start of this thread. He mentions Cyprus by name many times. There are many other youtubes of speeches where he mentions Cyprus.

Farage's (the UK's, actually) problem is that they did not get into the EU at the very start. By the time they joined, France and Germany had come to dominate the sphere so much that it has been difficult for the UK to play second fiddle.

So the UK wants "OUT" of the EU because they want to be in Germany's position; calling the shots themselves!

[These countries are not team players, I'm afraid. They are still barbarians. :wink: ]

Jeez you spout a load of crap, I guess it comes from jealousy you took the euro and the UK didn't. You are the most stupid poster I have ever encountered.
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:34 pm

One of the reasons for the Cyprus crisis is that the EU was developed to compete against the USA. And whilst this was being achieved, we failed to see the re-emergence of another superpower.

It is important for global security that the world has political checks and balances. Currently there is only one Super Power - the USA. A European Union, with a population of 320 million, strengthened by a single currency, could become a potential rival of the USA.
It would also mean that Europe would be able to control its own 'back yard', for example resolving the crisis in Yugoslavia, without depending on the USA.
Thus a united Europe can act as a check to US global hegemony, and frees european countries from undue US influence.
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The above was an old concept. Since then, the Euro has become the dominant currency. It has surpassed the dollar. Meanwhile, the old superpower, Russia, has re-emerged, strengthened.

- Their hold in Cyprus is what the Germans want to finally drive out.
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Re: Farage on Cyprus crisis

Postby bsharpish » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:37 pm

http://pawelmorski.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/cyprus-the-operation-succeeded-shame-the-patient-died/


If this is true ....... How well have pride and the troika fucked the good people of Cyprus over ???
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