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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:55 am

cyprus goes backwards economically 30 years, all the blood tears, and "kopo", goes to waste
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:55 am

apc2010 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Britain will be among FIRST countries to be hit by any fall in lifestyle of Cypriots.

Alongside other factors: Cypriot students are propping up sick UK universities suffering from lack of funds from home students.

Think! 8)


Was that a serious post .......????? how many Cypriot students are there in the UK ??


Serious.

Huge. I'm talking about Cypriots from Cyprus, let alone Cypriots born in UK.

Last year they were in the top ten. This year it's gone up again. That is a huge number from a single (and small) state.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/un ... he-UK.html
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby Mik » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:00 am

he he some of the "facts" lol
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:02 am

Oceanside50 wrote:cyprus goes backwards economically 30 years, all the blood tears, and "kopo", goes to waste


kill the bankers.
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby tsukoui » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:14 am

Could Cyprus leave the euro but stay in the EU?

Historically, political expediency has trumped EU law (to put it mildly) and in order to take a swift decision and avoid a Treaty change, EU leaders could (and most likely would) go for the latter option. Article 352 TFEU (sometimes referred to as “the flexibility clause”), in particular, allows member states to take measures to achieve EU “objectives” not yet provided for in the EU treaties.

Reminiscent of the bailouts themselves, this could provide a temporary legal avenue for Cyprus to leave the euro but stay in the EU without shredding the EU Treaties to pieces. It would extremely messy and far from easy – and require unanimous approval, in addition to the European Parliament giving its consent.
As legal challenges also are likely, a full treaty change would almost certainly be necessary very soon after the actual Cyprus exit (and use of article 352), which would change Cyprus status under the EU treaties from a euro member to a non-euro one and recognise, at least in retrospect, that there is a way for a country to leave the euro. However, a full treaty change would come with its own set of political and legal complications – the UK, for example, would have a veto over such negotiations – and the changes would most likely have to be ratified in national parliaments.

So very messy, but given the geopolitics and the rest of it, this might be what EU leaders go for.


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/matspersson/100023681/could-cyprus-leave-the-euro-but-stay-in-the-eu/
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby observer » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:31 am

apc2010 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Britain will be among FIRST countries to be hit by any fall in lifestyle of Cypriots.

Alongside other factors: Cypriot students are propping up sick UK universities suffering from lack of funds from home students.

Think! 8)


Was that a serious post .......????? how many Cypriot students are there in the UK ??


In academic year 2111/12 there were 11,620 Cypriot students at UK universities. An impressive number from a small island, but in total there were 435,230 forign students, so Cypriot students were 2.67% of the total of foreign students if my sums are correct. Their withdrawal would scarcely shake the walls of academia, and would shrink to an even smaller percentage if UK nationals were taken into account.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/about/statistics_he.php#table1
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:41 am

observer wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Britain will be among FIRST countries to be hit by any fall in lifestyle of Cypriots.

Alongside other factors: Cypriot students are propping up sick UK universities suffering from lack of funds from home students.

Think! 8)


Was that a serious post .......????? how many Cypriot students are there in the UK ??


In academic year 2111/12 there were 11,620 Cypriot students at UK universities. An impressive number from a small island, but in total there were 435,230 forign students, so Cypriot students were 2.67% of the total of foreign students if my sums are correct. Their withdrawal would scarcely shake the walls of academia, and would shrink to an even smaller percentage if UK nationals were taken into account.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/about/statistics_he.php#table1


The numbers of UK nationals going onto HE have shrunk consecutively by about 10% each time, these last two years. The number of foreign students entrances, who need visas, has shrank also. Meanwhile, there was a further 1.5% increase in Cypriot students for 2012-13. That would be a huge loss in university-generated income as Cypriot students probably come with more money to spend and are generally among the most able linguistically (at least). Don't forget, any student drops affect 'pockets' of the economy which are already vulnerable from UK number declines.
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby turkkan » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:25 pm

Lol I'm sure England will be fine.


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HOUSE prices in Britain recorded their strongest monthly jump in three years in March partly as a knock on effect of the crisis in Cyprus, UK property analyst Hometrack said yesterday.
The 0.3 per cent rise was driven by a boost to London house prices, with concerns over the crisis in Cyprus and the eurozone likely to send more cash flowing into the English capital in the coming months, the study said.
The national increase in house prices this month marks the highest growth seen since March 2010. Prices soared by 0.7 per cent month-on-month in London, showing the strongest uplift since February 2010.
Three-fifths of London postcodes saw prices increase in March and London properties now spend just under five weeks on the market before they are snapped up - the shortest average time period seen since October 2007.
London has enjoyed strong demand from wealthy overseas buyers who see the capital as a "safe haven" from the troubles of the eurozone.
Richard Donnell, director of research at Hometrack, said that the latest crisis in Cyprus "will only serve to further boost the flow of international funds into the capital".
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby observer » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Cyprus Island Girl wrote:
The numbers of UK nationals going onto HE have shrunk consecutively by about 10% each time, these last two years. The number of foreign students entrances, who need visas, has shrank also. Meanwhile, there was a further 1.5% increase in Cypriot students for 2012-13. That would be a huge loss in university-generated income as Cypriot students probably come with more money to spend and are generally among the most able linguistically (at least). Don't forget, any student drops affect 'pockets' of the economy which are already vulnerable from UK number declines.


Percentages may be impressive, but often real numbers give a better picture. an increase of 1.5% is about an extra 170 warm bodies. The educational system is unlikely to collapse.

I could illustrate my point in another way. If Cypriot students represent 2.67% of foreign students, the extra 170 Cypriots represents about 0.04% of total foreign students. Hardly worth bothering about. Aren't statistics a wonderful thing.
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Re: Playing Hard Ball: Cypriot President threatens to resign

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:05 pm

observer wrote:Cyprus Island Girl wrote:
The numbers of UK nationals going onto HE have shrunk consecutively by about 10% each time, these last two years. The number of foreign students entrances, who need visas, has shrank also. Meanwhile, there was a further 1.5% increase in Cypriot students for 2012-13. That would be a huge loss in university-generated income as Cypriot students probably come with more money to spend and are generally among the most able linguistically (at least). Don't forget, any student drops affect 'pockets' of the economy which are already vulnerable from UK number declines.


Percentages may be impressive, but often real numbers give a better picture. an increase of 1.5% is about an extra 170 warm bodies. The educational system is unlikely to collapse.

I could illustrate my point in another way. If Cypriot students represent 2.67% of foreign students, the extra 170 Cypriots represents about 0.04% of total foreign students. Hardly worth bothering about. Aren't statistics a wonderful thing.


Even the loss of a mere 170 students equates to the loss of some 3 lecturers, a technician, plus some administrative staff, rental sector facilities etc

The Universities are in big trouble. But the UK acts in the best way it knows how in times of crisis - it shuts up, buries its head in the sand and hopes nobody notices!

For the first time, this year Ucas, the university admissions service, has decided to withhold annual figures on the number of applications to individual institutions. The data, on undergraduate applications for the 2013-14 academic year, was scheduled to be released after 15 January – the main deadline for university entrance prior to the last-minute Clearing process in the summer.

Ucas says that it changed its plans because of "potential volatility in supply and demand" following the introduction of higher fees last year. However, vice-chancellors say the organisation is responding to intense pressure from specific institutions whose numbers are seriously deflated for the second year running and who are determined that this should not become public knowledge.

The vice-chancellor of one university explains: "If you were down 15% last year and the same this year, you're in really serious danger. The understandable fear is that it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If it gets out, will parents let their kids go to you?"


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