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EU - US free trade deal is a UNIQUE opportunity

Postby Maximus » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:00 pm

Following on from Obama's State of the Union address, John Kerry has marked out the free-trade agreement as a key element in cementing transatlantic ties. "We think this is something that can lift the economy of Europe, strengthen our economy, create jobs for Americans, for Germans, for all Europeans and create one of the largest allied markets in the world," Kerry said on Tuesday in Berlin after talks with his German counterpart, Guido Westerwelle.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has sent a letter to U.S. President Barack Obama so that Washington would continue talks with Turkey for a free trade agreement simultaneously with the EU, so that Ankara is not left out in the cold in terms of international trade. “Difficulties arising from visas, quotas placed on the free movement of Turkish products, and the fact that Turkey cannot sign free trade agreements with countries who already have FTAs with the EU all cause unfair competition for Turkey,” Çağlayan said. “If the status quo continues, we may have to put the Customs Union [with the EU] on hold as the Customs Union is now working against Turkey.
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Postby B25 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:17 pm

Ha ha this bit made me laugh ” Çağlayan said. “If the status quo continues, we may have to put the Customs Union [with the EU] on hold as the Customs Union is now working against Turkey.

Basically instead of the EU withdrawing it, they are now telling us tom shove it. But the EU still wants to give Turkey hundreds of millions of Euros (German ones at that) to get them on board FFS.

Serves us bloody well right, we deserve all the shit we get from turkey I hope the EU suffers 1000 times more than Cyprus will. Gamoto.
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Re: EU - US free trade deal is a UNIQUE opportunity

Postby sven » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:21 pm

Maximus wrote:Following on from Obama's State of the Union address, John Kerry has marked out the free-trade agreement as a key element in cementing transatlantic ties. "We think this is something that can lift the economy of Europe, strengthen our economy, create jobs for Americans, for Germans, for all Europeans and create one of the largest allied markets in the world," Kerry said on Tuesday in Berlin after talks with his German counterpart, Guido Westerwelle.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has sent a letter to U.S. President Barack Obama so that Washington would continue talks with Turkey for a free trade agreement simultaneously with the EU, so that Ankara is not left out in the cold in terms of international trade. “Difficulties arising from visas, quotas placed on the free movement of Turkish products, and the fact that Turkey cannot sign free trade agreements with countries who already have FTAs with the EU, all cause unfair competition for Turkey,” Çağlayan said. “If the status quo continues, we may have to put the Customs Union [with the EU] on hold as the Customs Union is now working against Turkey.

It is the same Arguement that got the UK into the 'Common Market', all free trade agreements stifle free trade. You only have to read the quote from above "and the fact that Turkey cannot sign free trade agreements with countries who already have FTAs with the EU. The 'common market' WAS the tool that destroyed the UK, Coal Mining , Fishing Industry, you name it, all destroyed by the 'common market', and so it continues, to see the future, you only have to remember the past.
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Postby Oceanside50 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:17 am

Maximus wrote:Following on from Obama's State of the Union address, John Kerry has marked out the free-trade agreement as a key element in cementing transatlantic ties. "We think this is something that can lift the economy of Europe, strengthen our economy, create jobs for Americans, for Germans, for all Europeans and create one of the largest allied markets in the world," Kerry said on Tuesday in Berlin after talks with his German counterpart, Guido Westerwelle.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has sent a letter to U.S. President Barack Obama so that Washington would continue talks with Turkey for a free trade agreement simultaneously with the EU, so that Ankara is not left out in the cold in terms of international trade. “Difficulties arising from visas, quotas placed on the free movement of Turkish products, and the fact that Turkey cannot sign free trade agreements with countries who already have FTAs with the EU all cause unfair competition for Turkey,” Çağlayan said. “If the status quo continues, we may have to put the Customs Union [with the EU] on hold as the Customs Union is now working against Turkey.


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Postby lucius » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:08 pm

sven wrote:
Maximus wrote:Following on from Obama's State of the Union address, John Kerry has marked out the free-trade agreement as a key element in cementing transatlantic ties. "We think this is something that can lift the economy of Europe, strengthen our economy, create jobs for Americans, for Germans, for all Europeans and create one of the largest allied markets in the world," Kerry said on Tuesday in Berlin after talks with his German counterpart, Guido Westerwelle.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has sent a letter to U.S. President Barack Obama so that Washington would continue talks with Turkey for a free trade agreement simultaneously with the EU, so that Ankara is not left out in the cold in terms of international trade. “Difficulties arising from visas, quotas placed on the free movement of Turkish products, and the fact that Turkey cannot sign free trade agreements with countries who already have FTAs with the EU, all cause unfair competition for Turkey,” Çağlayan said. “If the status quo continues, we may have to put the Customs Union [with the EU] on hold as the Customs Union is now working against Turkey.

It is the same Arguement that got the UK into the 'Common Market', all free trade agreements stifle free trade. You only have to read the quote from above "and the fact that Turkey cannot sign free trade agreements with countries who already have FTAs with the EU. The 'common market' WAS the tool that destroyed the UK, Coal Mining , Fishing Industry, you name it, all destroyed by the 'common market', and so it continues, to see the future, you only have to remember the past.


Coal Mining and FIshing? You can´t be serious. The latter died more likely because of lack of fish. The former because of too expensive coal deposits. Norway and Iceland are still in a common market (EEA) with the EU. Never heard of flourishing coal mining there, but good fisihing industry. But, without enough fish that was gone too, common market or not.
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Re: EU - US free trade deal is a UNIQUE opportunity

Postby Nikitas » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:32 pm

Turkey uses generous export subsidies and special regulation free areas for exporting companies. It could be said that these measures provide an unfair advantage for exporters, especially in view of the fact that both the US and the EU apply strict environmental controls on companies on their soil. Processes that mandate closed loop environmental controls, like metal machining and finishing, in Turkey can legally be done in the open air. If Turkey was forced today to apply the same controls and abandon subsidies its cost advantage would go down the toilet. I know Turkish companies that sell their products below cost in the US and depend on the subsidies for their earnings. This practice is regarded as dumping and if scrutinised would attract penalties.
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Postby Maximus » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:42 pm

If Turkey does not take the appropriate measures to counter this, her economy will start to die from slow bleed.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:41 pm

Would that be anything like the GC economy?
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Postby CBBB » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Would that be anything like the GC economy?


No, it would be much worse, we at least have a population that is literate and can find work abroad.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:54 pm

CBBB wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Would that be anything like the GC economy?


No, it would be much worse, we at least have a population that is literate and can find work abroad.


Do you know how many Turks work or live abroad?
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